5 of us went to St Louis Ponds, We have proof there are some nice Brooders. Both were 17" to 18". Grilled them on the BBQ tonight, Pretty Tasty. We fished pond 3,5,6 and 7 found some nice little spots. We had quite a bit of action with the Blue Gill all day. Good place for the kids. Lots of weeds in the water.