Well, I can't really throw a ring either and so usually have my BF do that for me. LOL But the box I have is a cheap Danielson type so I don't think the crabs can get into it effectively.I can see how they would be great for people letting them soak for hours, but from the pier rings are way way way more fun when that is all you are doing. As for catch, in the dozen or so times I've been out to crab, probably got 3-4 reasonable sized red rocks in the box for all trips combined, while I get maybe that many per ring on each trip. I just have better ring luck.