I gear fish as well as fly fish. I took up swinging flies last winter with good success. I just wanted more of a challenge, kinda like going from hunting with a rifle to archery. But I like to go to areas where there's not a lot of people, both for me and them. It's annoying when a guy is swinging flies next to people gear fishing. Anyway, 20-30 yards is a perfect size. I need to just look at a map and find access. Someone said some road, Lolo pass or something. Heard of it?