Rogue river bank fishing

Salty Nick
Hi, new here, and only a visitor. I will be visiting southwest Oregon near the end of August - I'm a California native who bank fishes quite a bit, mostly surf-fishing for rockfish, and bay/river fishing for striped bass (used to fish for river-run salmon - 'til it got so bad it isn't worth it).

I will mostly be doing the tourist thing with family, but was wondering if it was worth bringing a rod or two? Are there any spots in Lower Rogue or Bay that would be worth bank fishing in late August? I used to fish Sacramento River fall run, using Mepps and Blue Fox spinners, usually below a 1/2 to 1oz. egg sinker (Carolina rig). I would fish 7-8 hours, and be lucky to get 1-2 fish. What do bank anglers usually use in the Lower Rogue?

I don't expect anyone to give up their favorite spots, but if there's some general areas that are good for bank fishing that you don't mind mentioning, I'd appreciate it.

Also, I was studying the Oregon Regs, and to say the least, they're kind of confusing. In August, it looked like you could take either wild or hatchery Chinook, hatchery Coho, and hatchery Steelhead in the Lower Rogue? Or was I not getting it? I got a little confused with the Southwest Zone Regs.

Thanks much,

Salty.
 
RunWithSasquatch
That time of the year will have summer steelhead and fall chinook. Spinners will work, especially with the warm water in the Rogue. The lower most sections of the Rogue seem to traditionally be a plunking show from the bank with large sized Spin n Glows. This year more so than the average, there is higher flows coming down river, making for cooler flows down into Gold Beach, bringing more Salmon further up river faster this year. If Eat, Sleep, Fish doesn't give you a good bit of information on this thread, you should shoot him a private message, he'll have good info.

You seem to be right on with the regs. Most if not all of the fall chinook should be wild fish, and there should be a mix of hatchery and wild steelhead, which most of those seem to be half pounders.
 
Salty Nick
Thanks, RunWithSasquatch

Thanks, RunWithSasquatch

Appreciate the quick response and info. I'm leaning toward bringing the fishing gear with me.

Salty.
 
RunWithSasquatch
I think you should, there will be plenty of fish.
 
Salty Nick
Also, will probably head to Crater Lake after that, it looks like that passes by Grants Pass area, which is near Upper Rogue? If given the choice, would I do better in late August to bank it from Upper Rogue or Lower Rogue for Salmon? The hard part for me though, is to fit in the fishing in-between the tourist stuff. It would be great if we could stay at a spot where the wife, kid & friends could walk around and have fun, while I fit some fishing in the morning.

Thanks,

Salty.
 
RunWithSasquatch
The Mid to lower Rogue is best, in my opinion for that time. It sounds like the Galice area, just above the wild and scenic in late august will be full of fish. And in my opinion, is a really nice area of the river. Galice has a resort, and a nice restaurant, lots of river access through that portion, with camp grounds along that area as well, about 20 minutes off I5. Im not sure of your vacation route, but sounds like you are coming up 101? If so, driving the river east and crossing over Bear Camp Road would put you smack on Galice.
 
Salty Nick
Thanks for the info. Plans are not yet set in stone. We are coming from SF Bay Area in CA - was planning to hit north coast of CA up through Mendocino to Crescent City, and into Oregon mainly to hit Crater Lake. Wasn't sure whether should go directly from Crescent City up to Grants Pass/Medford, then onto Crater Lake - or make a detour up to Gold Beach for a day, then back down and across to Medford. Again, travelling with family and a couple friends, and I am the only one interested in fishing - but I warned them I would take some time to fish. I will look into Galice.

Also wondering if I am planning too late. I know Oregon is a popular destination in the summer.

Salty.
 
RunWithSasquatch
Theres room for everyone. I am sure you'll be able to make your trip happen comfortably. As far as getting reservations, i can't say. It is a popular time of the year. The Galice area specifically will be busy, but most people are short term, one night at a time, being that most are staging to raft the rogue rivers wild and scenic section, though there are a lot of other things to do in the area.


There will be more people with better info that post later on, I am sure.
 
Salty Nick
Thanks much for the info RWS, appreciate it.

Salty.
 
eat, sleep, fish
The others have all given you great advice so far. If you're really wanting to do some salmon fishing I would take the detour up to Gold Beach. Plunking with a spin n glow or an anchovie will probably be your best bet at getting into one. Casting spinners would also be a good bet if you're not into sitting and waiting.

If you're wanting the best shot at catching some fish cut straight across from Crescent City and hit the Upper Rogue. There will be a lot of summer steelhead around and August is a great time. The very upper stretch above Shady Cove provides the easiest bank access to a lot of holes, and the road to Crater Lake also runs right along the river. You can cast size 3 spinners or 1/3 spoons, or drift corkies and yarn or bait, or flies under a bobber will all produce fish. They're super aggressive so you can use almost anything and have a decent shot at hooking into at least one.

The middle Rogue will have a few fall kings in it that time of year, but with the high flows this year the fish most likely aren't going to be holding in traditional holes. It's going to make it pretty tuff on us bank fishermen.
 
Mad dog
Salty,

There is a lot of bank access on the lower Rogue, Lobster creek is about 8 miles or so upstream from Gold beach and they do get some salmon and steelhead in that area. At times you can catch fall chinook right off of the sand spit between the jetties on the right tide, but this year they dredged the bay and the sandspit is almost completely gone. A 1 oz. kastmaster tossed into the river channel from the jetty and retrieved in a jigging retrive...let it sink a few feet, lift your rod and retrieve a few feet of line, then let it sink again, then retrieve again will sometimes get fall chinook. You might also have some opportunity for surf perch, lingcod or rockfish off of the jetties in august....just be careful....that Rogue jetty sure seems to get rough at times!

Gold beach is no-mans land as far as inland hwy's are concerned, you'll have to backtrack to 199 and follow the Smith river until you hit I-5 at Grants pass or you can head north and go east at Bandon on Hwy42 until you get to Roseburg, from Roseburg, Crater lake is a direct, senic drive along the North Umpqua river, I would highly recommend this route!
 
Salty Nick
Wow! Thanks for all the great, detailed info - appreciate your generosity. I really like the idea of hitting Gold Beach and trying for salmon, and even middle Rogue for Steelhead, too - will see if family & friends agree tho. Will let you know how it goes.

Salty.
 
eat, sleep, fish
I'd probably skip the middle Rogue and just stop along the Upper river as you drive along it. There will be more steelhead up there, and they will be much more aggressive as the middle river gets quite warm during August.
 
Salty Nick
More Regulation Help!
Boy, and I thought CA regs were confusing - but, I was looking at Southwest Zone regs for Upper Rogue (around Shady cove area) during August 21-27th timeframe, and was getting a headache.
Am I right in understanding that all Chinook Salmon is closed in that stretch, but hatchery Coho and Steelhead are open?

And, sorry if this is off-topic, but same for North Umpqua River (around Idleyld Park area)?

Not having caught any Coho/silver - I've heard the best way to ID from Chinook are white or light gums vs. Chinook black/dark gums?

Salty.
 
eat, sleep, fish
Yes it's open to steelhead and coho, but you won't find any silvers up there until late October at the earliest.
 
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Salty Nick
Thanks, ESF. So it looks like in Umpqua, near Idleyld Park, and Rogue, near Shady Cove it's a steelhead game. Any suggestions on what to use? Would spinners work in these areas? Mepps or Panther Martins or Rooster Tails? Are most steelies wild, or is there a mix?

Thanks,

Salty.
 
eat, sleep, fish
Spinners are a great choice. My go to lure is a size #3 blue fox in blue body / silver blade. With the river so high you may need to bump it up to a size 4 though. 1/3oz Little Cleos are also a good choice as well as drift fishing. There's a mix of fish in the Rogue and I believe the same for the North Umpqua (but not positive).
 
RunWithSasquatch
eat said:
There's a mix of fish in the Rogue and I believe the same for the North Umpqua (but not positive).

NU has a mix of hatch and nates.
 
Mad dog
Probably about a 50/50 mix of hatcheries vs. nates. The last several seasons hatchery production has been poor due to problems at the Rock creek hatchery. This year seems to be a little better!

Getting back to your original post, during late August I would by far recommend Winchester bay at the mouth of the Umpqua for bank fishing salmon over the Rogue. Lot's of Coho and Chinook in the bay by Late August! Good bank fishing spots at Half moon bay and windy cove....lot's of hatchery coho taken in these spots as well as the terminal fishery where coho smolts are stocked in the boat basin in the harbor....those fish are all hatchery coho! Pink hootchie type spinners are the preferred bank fishing lures on the Umpqua for bay salmon.
 
Salty Nick
Thanks for all the input! Will be staying in Gold Beach then travelling to Crater Lake, so probably won't make it up to mouth of Umpqua. Was thinking of hitting jetty at the mouth of the Rogue or at the bank a little further upstream. When fishing spinners in the rivers, do you guys generally use any added weight? When fishing Sacramento River, it's common to use 1/2 - 3/4oz. egg sinker, then 1 1/2 to 3ft. leader to spinner. Also hope to hit North Umpqua, hear Idleyld and Rogue near Shady Cove. Probably don't need the weight when sizing down to #3 or #4 spinners in smaller parts of rivers?

Thanks,

Salty.
 

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