There is a group of us that run the upper Clack at about 2200cfs. we usualy drop fire wood at about the half way mark for a litte warm up. We ran from power house down through Carter bridge last winter in the snow. It was absolutly spectacular. This is a fun float for the EXPERIENCED and PROPERLY EQUIPED. Fishing and floating I run from Mcgiver down, as well as the Wilson. I am still some what of a rookie, so I like to explore rivers with others that already know a river for the first time. I am looking forward to running the upper Sandy, as well as the Alsea. Another fun float and fish for the experienced is the Klickatat in Wa from the hatchery down. That one is probably buried in snow right now, it is more of a late spring early summer deal.