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DrTheopolis
I would like you to, instead of making condescending remarks, try and educate me and other new comers to this region and it's fishing.
Still not clear about what you were trying to say. I see some conflicting posts on whether or not winter run steelhead are endangered or not. Seems to me that an endangered run would be protected by the DFW by prohibiting fishing.I would like you to, instead of calling me out, to try and reread the above posts.
It would appear that my post generated a discussion, that lead to multiple people doing some research, which they shared, and I think it's safe to say we all learned something.
a summary is that the late run winter steelhead have no hatchery origin and have been "untouched" in the gene pool since they've been around (before Willamette falls fish ladder). Lots of good info. I still stand by "if its got a fin, it goes back in".
Glad you found that study, Steel4life.
I don't know the specifics of that, but I do know there is active research happening to determine if the non-native Skamania strain (summer run steelhead) are spawning with and diluting out the small run of native winter run fish.
The Army Corps has promoted the summer run plants as partial remediation for the dams that cut off spawning grounds to the native fish. Not very logical since there wasn't any summer runs in the Willy valley before the dams, but lots of us do enjoy catching them. Anyway they seem to favor the status quo.
Other groups are wondering if the relatively large numbers of non native summer run fish are having a negative influence on the winter runs. So, ODFW is spending some considerable time and resources to find out how much interbreeding is happening. Hopefully the science will show very little and both runs can continue. If not, say goodbye to town run fishing in the summer.
We shall see.
Best,
Wait, maybe I have misunderstood, but ODFW has always said that there was no winter run. If that is the case then the current winter run do not qualify for any specific protections. I was always under the impression that springers and summers were the onlt anadramous fish in the eugene area, historically that is.
Wait, maybe I have misunderstood, but ODFW has always said that there was no winter run. If that is the case then the current winter run do not qualify for any specific protections. I was always under the impression that springers and summers were the onlt anadramous fish in the eugene area, historically that is.
I do keep a copy in my truck cab, even though after reading them I get the distinct feeling that they are written specifically to enable the writing of citations for misunderstanding them.Fish tend to engulf bait Tom, and the hook with it. Which leads to mortality. Yes winter run steelhead are on the endangered list in the UWR( Upper Willamette River) upriver to the Calapooia river. Not all adipose intact fish have to be released. Always check regulations for the body of water you are fishing, and furthermore, what section of a body of water you are fishing. For example, sections of the McKenzie have regulations requiring no bait, and limited hook sizes, in order to protect native cutthroat. Some sections require larger hooks. I don't even pretend to understand it all. Keep a copy of regulations with you(smart phones are great for this...download and save file).
I would also say I have yet to sink a line in the McKenzie river. I've fished the Suislaw one time and Lake Creek one time.Fish tend to engulf bait Tom, and the hook with it. Which leads to mortality. Yes winter run steelhead are on the endangered list in the UWR( Upper Willamette River) upriver to the Calapooia river. Not all adipose intact fish have to be released. Always check regulations for the body of water you are fishing, and furthermore, what section of a body of water you are fishing. For example, sections of the McKenzie have regulations requiring no bait, and limited hook sizes, in order to protect native cutthroat. Some sections require larger hooks. I don't even pretend to understand it all. Keep a copy of regulations with you(smart phones are great for this...download and save file).
they tend to eat what they bite. .
Thank you. I find this answer tremendously helpful and, as my Limey buddy says, spot on.You can't fish for steelhead in Oregon.
Oops.Thank you. I find this answer tremendously helpful and, as my Limey buddy says, spot on.
Yeah, I got one of those."You can't fish for steelhead in Oregon."...unless you first purchase a combined angling tag.
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