Chrom... Thanks for the invite for a PM. I prefer to stay public with my comments. I agree with you 100% re the professional world of rod building. I would not have it any other way! I was just saying that long rods can be used as center pin fishing set up depending on CONDITIONS! I have transitioned from skgit/spey to CP, covers more water (100yds or more) and more control for me on short runs all in one cast. Changing topic here, Why don't more peeps leave a bio about themselves? What are guys afraid of? Tony is 76 years old this month.