Completely New to Fly Fishing

[FairweatherFisher]

Hey everyone,

I’m an absolute beginner at fly fishing. I took a class from the Caddis Fly shop (Eugene) this past weekend, and want to get out and start trying to land some fish!

In addition to seeking any tips, tricks, and tidbits of wisdom you all would be kind enough to share with me, I have a question.
Can I use any old hook and bait? For instance, I have some #10 hooks and yellow power bait that I’ve had pretty good luck with catching hatchery trout on my spinning rod. Is there any reason I couldn’t use that same set up on my fly rod?

 

[Irishrover]

When you are making false cast to load your rod, that power bait might just go flying off the hook. The fly rod, and fly line are best suited to and designed for fishing with flies.

Get your hands on a copy of the Curtis Creek Manifesto by Sheridan Anderson and spend some time reading it. It will cut your learning curve by 50%.

https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/curti...f06888e72191f99#idiq=11284723&edition=3827197

Tight lines!

 

[FairweatherFisher]

When you are making false cast to load your rod, that power bait might just go flying off the hook. The fly rod, and fly line are best suited to and designed for fishing with flies.

Get your hands on a copy of the Curtis Creek Manifesto by Sheridan Anderson and spend some time reading it. It will cut your learning curve by 50%.

https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/curtis-creek-manifesto_sheridan-anderson/462577/item/11284723/?mkwid=|dc&pcrid=77447028765180&pkw=&pmt=be&slid=&product=11284723&plc=&pgrid=1239149900900141&ptaid=pla-4581046492312221&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping+-+High+Vol+Frontlist+-+Under+$10&utm_term=&utm_content=|dc|pcrid|77447028765180|pkw||pmt|be|product|11284723|slid||pgrid|1239149900900141|ptaid|pla-4581046492312221|&msclkid=dd48ece2b89f1b347f06888e72191f99#idiq=11284723&edition=3827197

Tight lines!

Rather than waiting, I went down to the Alton Baker canal and tried it, and that’s exactly what happened. Well, actually the hook and PB went flying off. Then I tied in a fly, and that also went flying off after about a dozen casts.

I’ve never had that happen on a spinning rod. I think I need to reevaluate how I’m tying on my hooks.

 

[TheKnigit]

You might look at your casting before revisiting the knots that you are tying. There can be a couple of reasons to lose a fly.

1. Fly was to large for the tippet/leader.
2. You are starting your forward cast to soon. Are you hearing a snap or crack sound like a whip when you are casting?
3. You might have snagged brush or grass on your back cast.

I use a basic anchor knot for a lot of my flies if they aren't either to small or I would like additional articulation.

 

[troutdude]

Until the last Saturday of the month; most streams are closed to fishing with bait. But why would you try bait with a fly rod? Fly rods aren't designed to cast bait. Rather they are designed to cast, in many cases, teeny tiny flies. So that they gently lay on, or into, the water and not spook the fish.

And to many fly fishermen women, using bait is against the unwritten rules of fly angling. Hopefully none will chime in on this, with any sarcastic remarks. But, instead, OFFer you some help like the others above.

 

[FairweatherFisher]

Until the last Saturday of the month; most streams are closed to fishing with bait. But why would you try bait with a fly rod? Fly rods aren't designed to cast bait. Rather they are designed to cast, in many cases, teeny tiny flies. So that they gently lay on, or into, the water and not spook the fish.

And to many fly fishermen women, using bait is against the unwritten rules of fly angling. Hopefully none will chime in on this, with any sarcastic remarks. But, instead, OFFer you some help like the others above.

Why? Because I have lots of it, and I don’t have many flies, and I know power bait floats the same as a fly would. I also know the hatchery fish here seem to like the yellow kind. This particular body of water is open to fishing year round.

The distinction between bait, jigs, flies, etc. is one that I don’t understand. They’re all synthetic materials (unless it’s live bait, which powerbait isn’t) so why are they treated differently?

 

[FairweatherFisher]

You might look at your casting before revisiting the knots that you are tying. There can be a couple of reasons to lose a fly.

1. Fly was to large for the tippet/leader.
2. You are starting your forward cast to soon. Are you hearing a snap or crack sound like a whip when you are casting?
3. You might have snagged brush or grass on your back cast.

I use a basic anchor knot for a lot of my flies if they aren't either to small or I would like additional articulation.

Most likely #2 & #3. It was a pretty brushy hillside I was on, and there were definitely a few snaps that I heard. Just couldn’t seem to get it to cast as far as I needed to get out of the eddy current, so I was letting out more line. Probably didn’t give it long enough to unfurl on the back cast.

 

[TheKnigit]

#2 can be a hard one to break sometimes. Especially if you are used to casting a tackle rod. It is really awkward to watch, but try and watch the tip of your rod as you pull the rod back and forth. Make sure you are careful not to drop your rod tip to much on your back cast, and your mainline should make a relatively flat infinity loop, or figure 8 pattern.

If your mainline is more of an arc pattern then you might be either not waiting long enough on your back cast, dropping your rod tip to much, or a combination. I see a lot of newer fly anglers do a combination especially on the final cast. The Orvis website has some really good videos that can help with some casting techniques if you are interested.

Also, I am relatively positive that things like power bait are considered "bait" according to the regs. and is separate from an artificial fly or lure.

 

[Irishrover]

I think TheKnight is right regarding your cast. This may seem like an odd way to learn the cast, but it worked for me when teaching a couple of my grandsons. 1.Find a field (land) where you can practice casting 2. tie a piece of yarn onto your tippet, 3. put some fly line out in front of you in a straight line, 4. Close your eyes! 5. As you would do in a cast, bring the fly rod up in a steady smooth motion to the two o'clock position. 6. Hold that two o'clock position until you feel a slight tug on the line. That only take a fraction of a second, but it tells you your line is straight out in back of you, that your rod is loaded and is ready to come forward to the ten o'clock position to complete the cast.

The idea is to practice this until you know when your fly rod is loaded and ready for the forward movement. That's why closing your eyes helps, you are attempting to get the feel it.

 

[DOKF]

Remember that you are for the most part casting the flyline, not the actual lure.

Casting PB can be done with a flyrod (sacrilegious!), but must be done very gentle. Try a gentle roll cast, or something akin to Euro nymphing.

Practice is good, and practice on a lawn is sage advice, but know that it may trash your flyline ...