I have heard many many things about Cedar Creek, and their financial woes, but I also have heard a lot of B.S. about Winters in Eagle Creek. I can tell you this. No Winters got spawned this year. I did see quite a lot getting slashed and dumped into big bins, that eventually make it to Idaho, or WA to feed inmates, or homeless folk. But whatever happens in the next 5-7 years, will determine the fisheries futures for sure. I hope we can manage to get our leaderships heads screwed on straight, and cinvince them that sportsmen are important. The Sandy will always be a clipped fishery though. REgardless of Cedar Creeks existence or not. Might not be as good, but at least you will still be able to harvest.