Sorry to burst your bubble, but if you really are dead-set about traditionally two-handing bugs on those rivers, you will want to get a slightly smaller Skagit set-up. Rio makes a Compact Skagit line, that I can say is fantastic! I cut them down from 100 feet, and add in my own butt sections, and sometimes tips, but it is because I am picky, picky! You can't find a spot with enough room to backcast on the Clackamas. Skagits, in compact form, are the only way! 450-675 grain lines, short belly sections(20-35 feet depending on casting style, and water fished), 6-8, maybe 10 foot sink tips, heavy bugs, and something, sub 11 feet in the rod department would be ideal around here. And the Spey Clave is normally kind of a hoot to watch. As most guys doing demos are conditon fishermen and are trying to cast 44-56 foot bellies, on light weight lines, and 14 footers at the Garbage hole! Good luck gettin to the far side of that one with a traditional cast into the wind! f you can get schooled up on compact Skagit systems(Look it up online) before you go, there will be at least two gents there who are good at knowing what to use, and where. So if you see guys with tight D-Loops about to rip their ear off, you found the right people! I am not syaing you can't Spey cast a traditional rig, but we have brushy banks around here, and the only way to two-hand our rivers effectively is by adapting the systems of old, and learning new techniques. Although Short Skag's are at least few years old, they are just gettin popular in OR. So there is my rant on bug smashin the OR rivers. It justisn't possible to be all that successfuyl on classic gear. It simply was not designed to be used here...But Rio has it as close as you'll get off the shelf. I have made some 700-900 grain units, with 10-12 foot belly's, 4 -6 foot sink tips, and massively heavy butt sections for the OP but that is a different ball game up there. And I really am not trying to burst bubbles! Just lettin you know what works around here.