Shaun Solomon
I 100% agree with you. Several streams that I use to fish and saw few people have been ruined by another un-named Internet forum. People have lost the connection with the river. I remember when we had to watch the weather report and know how long it would take for a particular stream to drop. Also which streams dropped into shape right after the rains have stopped.In my opinion the internet has ruined dozens of our streams and rivers in Oregon. Every jackass that doesn't know what he's doing chases a report. Maybe he gets lucky and gets a fish but most likely he just clogs up holes and makes it impossible for fishermen that know what they are doing to fish the best water. It happened to me today.
If you are going to chase reports because somebody decided to let you know where they like to catch fish, learn local etiquette and don't be a richard. (no offense to any Richards out there)
This!!In my opinion the internet has ruined dozens of our streams and rivers in Oregon. Every jackass that doesn't know what he's doing chases a report. Maybe he gets lucky and gets a fish but most likely he just clogs up holes and makes it impossible for fishermen that know what they are doing to fish the best water. It happened to me today.
If you are going to chase reports because somebody decided to let you know where they like to catch fish, learn local etiquette and don't be a richard. (no offense to any Richards out there)
I wonder how much of the ills we equate to the internet are just effects of a rapidly growing population squeezed into fewer spots to fish.It’s sucks that the internet has ruined the outdoors. There is no substitute for years of experience knowing where to go at high water vs low water. The behavior of fish under different condition. I actually feel sad that the people today will never know what it takes to REALLY know a river, to be able to have double digit out of this world days because you have your finger on the pulse of the stream.
Filed away in my memory banks, pun intended, for future refererence and potential usage. LOLdon't be a richard. (no offense to any Richards out there)
I for one, do not "chase reports". I do not have a boat which limits my options a ton. While I am only a few years into fishing for salmon and steelhead, I have put in hundreds of hours on the Sandy, Clack, Columbia and Willy. Plunking, bobbering, spooning and spinning all over the place. So while I may not know 100% what I am doing, how else am I to learn the local rivers than to get out there. Most people are very willing to help out someone new to a fishery.In my opinion the internet has ruined dozens of our streams and rivers in Oregon. Every jackass that doesn't know what he's doing chases a report. Maybe he gets lucky and gets a fish but most likely he just clogs up holes and makes it impossible for fishermen that know what they are doing to fish the best water. It happened to me today.
If you are going to chase reports because somebody decided to let you know where they like to catch fish, learn local etiquette and don't be a richard. (no offense to any Richards out there)
First of all, nice one. Congratulations on your success and having a great time. It sounds like you're hooked. I have great news for you, it only gets better. SBs, 360s and a lb of lead will get the job done in big water, but doesn't give the sporty little coho a good opportunity to show off their skills. When you have one crush a flatlined plug with the rod is in your hand, hammer a swung spinner or spoon, or race ten feet to smash a twitched jig, it's going to blow your mind. Don't even get me started on "where's your bobber?" egg bites.I went out on a boat a month ago and had 4 takedowns and landed two (released one wild Coho). We were trolling around Terminal 6 on the Columbia. All hookups were on a Brad's Superbait with a silver 360 flasher and 16 oz of lead. I have never had so much fun fishing in my entire life. I do not expect that this report will be ruining coho fishing on the Columbia.
I'm not sure if you're bragging (which you accused me of) or making a point.Other than Meldrum Bar, I almost never see others near me when I am fishing. So hopefully I am not a Richard ruining the holes of the old pros like Jamison.
Thanks Snopro. I am VERY eager to get some Salmon and Steelhead from the bank. I have been trying for a long time now. I can say my drifting and bobber fishing has developed well. I try to spend as much time at the popular spots on the Sandy every weekend. Dabney, Oxbow, Dodge etc... I have not gone up to the hatchery as it sounds like there are TONS of people fishing there.First of all, nice one. Congratulations on your success and having a great time. It sounds like you're hooked. I have great news for you, it only gets better. SBs, 360s and a lb of lead will get the job done in big water, but doesn't give the sporty little coho a good opportunity to show off their skills. When you have one crush a flatlined plug with the rod is in your hand, hammer a swung spinner or spoon, or race ten feet to smash a twitched jig, it's going to blow your mind. Don't even get me started on "where's your bobber?" egg bites.
As for hot spotting you bring up a couple key points and you're right, the way you gave info won't be ruining the fishery. First, you waited a month to give it out. Second, it's a huge river and while we can tell where you are in the photo, it's not giving away the location of where you hooked the fish. Let's contrast that with a couple photos on insta of a lucky fisherman playing and landing a huge chinook from a well known rock or sandbar on the Wilson dated yesterday. Worse would be a video. Not cool.
To me hot spotting is directly related to the size of the water body and amount of traffic it currently is subject to. The Ocean, Lower Willamette, and Lower Columbia are fine to give up the goods on anytime. Those little trib holes with light traffic, keep that info off the net.
Have to disagree, there is a big difference. Would you have 100,000 people listening in when you ask friends, family or store help for advice?I realize that the internet makes all of this much easier but it isn't really any different than asking a friend, family member, or someone at the fishing store what size herring to use or what size hooks are good for Steelhead vs Chinook.
I'm my experience, the guys that know the least share the most.I would not mind 100,000 people listening to me ask "what color herring should I get for coho under a diver?", or "how much lead should I plan to bring for plunking in Warrendale?"
I've been away from my desktop computer for over a week and could only see the response to my glib comment (#6) on my newfangled smart cellular telephone due to not having memorized my OFF password. I'm proud of you guys for politely discussing this subject again even though it was a hijack to jamisonace's original post. I'd also like to thank jamisonace for inviting me to fish on 11/9 and getting me into my first salmon since 2019. Cheers.
That’s different. What they mean is like a conversation I have with a friend saying hey man I caught my personal best steelhead at so and so river and then hundreds of people see that and go fish the river. That’s hot spotting. If I say hey man I caught some nice trout at hagg lake nobody’s going to be mad at me. If I say I caught a limit of steelhead at some small local creek on the coast all the locals will get mad because a bunch of pressure will be sent to a little system that doesn’t have enough room for a ton of fisherman. I use to think people who didn’t share locations were being selfish and just didn’t want to share their spot, but most of them will share the location if they get to know you. A poacher, litter bug etc can go to your spot and you can’t filter who gets your information if you post it online for all to see. There’s people who might follow the laws but they might go fish that spot a ton and tell their 20 uncles and then your spot can get trashed. Then it becomes trash combat fishing. I enjoy company when fishing and I love to chat with other anglers on the river/lake, but I enjoy the tranquility of some of my spots where I almost never see another fisherman. Also if you do ask someone online where they are fishing don’t be surprised if you get poked fun at and be understanding of the fact that most people aren’t willing to share locations with strangers. If hot spotting wasn’t real we would all be sharing the secret local spots. If your understanding and respectful people will share spots with you even without you asking them too.I would not mind 100,000 people listening to me ask "what color herring should I get for coho under a diver?", or "how much lead should I plan to bring for plunking in Warrendale?"