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Not entirely true. That notching trick is mainly for the tacklemakers/wire forming tools, though I suppose could be applied to pliers.. You're right that if you continue with the round nose you will have a deformed wire loop - same with when you're adding a hook if you use the round nose..
You're supposed to hold the two eyes (wire loop/hook, or wire loop/swivel eye) between the "anvil" sections on your pliers and you will not deform the loop.
In the above diagram where it says "flatten lead" - that is the anvil section.
I personally find that adding a swivel to the top eye takes a lot of spinners out of balance. I run a black #7 swivel about 18" above the spinner.
I do hold them both Ali.
once the eyes are placed together (without the wire loop completed), when you turn them as far as they go one direction, they bind. turn them until they bind and then grab them both with the anvils.
What fishfinger posted will work for swivels but would make for a lot of "resituating" of the pliers when you're doing a hook.
Mr Button, let's go fishing next Saturday...Ohhhh.... I get it now.... OOPs Please forgive my ignorance... Really I'm only 8 yrs old. I got the same thing Benjamin button had.