Thanks troutski, I looked all over the ODFW site, even with their search engine, and all I found is what the amazon canal is for and who owns it and what it's doing blah blah blah...and that Fern Ridge has 39 miles of coastline :shock:. I also found out why I barely ever see the dam open and letting water into the long tom. The city or the army corps of engineers or someone only opens up the gates at the end of summer, to drain fern ridge so it acts as a drainage ditch for the city in the winter time. That is the best time to be sitting there catching buckets of eating-size bullhead by the way,over the fence that overlooks the long tom side of the dam. I'll try the phone number tomorrow.