Ned Rig - REALLY?!

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Every time I post photos of the small soft plastic lures that do great, someone mentions that all they are, are Ned rigs. But there are many differences not mentioned or understood. First, the definition of a Ned rig - note the words in bold:
A Ned Rig is a very simplistic bait and presentation at its core – it is the most do-nothing looking rig and one of the most effective fish catchers. Born out of the Midwest finesse bass fishing niche by Ned Kehde, the Ned Rig is simply a small plastic, usually 2 to 3 inches long, rigged on a mushroom head jig.
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The shape on the right is the only similarity - this time.
When and where to throw a Ned Rig: You want to make sure fish are relating to the bottom and that the bottom is fairly clean. Neither of these are a complete deal breaker but rather a good general rule of thumb. The central component of a Ned Rig is the Jig head or Ned head. A Ned head has a flat surface to it so the bait will stand up when dragged across the bottom. Grab a light, 1/16- or 1/8-ounce lead head jig like the Finesse ShroomZ, cut a 5″ stick bait in half (or grab the Finesse TRD) and thread it on. Z -Man ElaZtech is a proprietary material that renders soft baits resistant to rips and tears and floats upright on the bottom.
Once on the bottom, give it a minute to let the fish get a look. Bait action is imparted by the angler in the form of subtle hops and twitches, separated by pauses while the bait settles through the water column to the bottom. Slow and subtle is good; slower and subtler is better.


1. What I cast is far from a do-nothing bottom rig. In fact, the lures have as much if not more action than most lures and that action is imparted constantly by the angler. The slow, twitch & pause angler-imparted action is the only similarity.

2. Ned head - a mushroom or flathead jig defines the Ned Rig.
Fact : I never use anything but ball head jigs and never use 1/8 oz. My jigs range from 1/32 - 1/24 oz. which allows slower retrieves mid-depth. The reason a flat head is used is to work the lure on the bottom. Lures like the Sassy Shad and and other swimbaits, are usually worked parallel to the bottom on a steady retrieve. But I work my micro-plastics by twitching & pausing the lures all the way, rarely letting them rest on bottom (unless when lighting my pipe.)

3. The design of the Ned Rig Lure is a fat stick 3" long. My small plastics are less than 2" and thin in diameter. Even a curl-tail grub with the tail removed has a darting action the Ned Rig lure doesn't. The action of the Ned Rig is totally different than that imparted to a small plastic, no-tail lure mid-depth.

4. Being a bottom lure, Ned lures don't cover near as much water as small twitched small plastics. Yesterday I hit a shallow flat pattern anchored in a few spots. I cast all around the boat in 2' and caught a bunch of fish. The bottom had a lot of soft algae so the Ned would not have worked by dragging it.

5. The variety of small plastic shapes is limitless unlike short thick Ned sticks. Even one shape will do well 100 % of the time though I like to make believe that more shapes make thing more interesting to fish.
Here's a body-to-body melted together that caught fish rigged from the front or wacky rigged:
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1/32 oz jig with #6 hook

111 fish on Wed., 63 fish on Thurs. (short stay due to 20 mph wind) and 69 fish last Fri. blow away the numbers of fish limited by the Ned Rig. Small plastics on light jigs is a totally different way to fish than the Ned Rig or using swimbaits. Species caught on light jig and small plastics: crappie, white and yellow perch, sunfish, bass.
 
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Looks like a grub!
 
DonF said:
Looks like a grub!
Parts of grubs melted together using a candle. There are many tail shapes that can be added. The three photos on the right shows wacky rigs using a light jig head:

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Senkosam said:
Every time I post photos of the small soft plastic lures that do great, someone mentions that all they are, are Ned rigs. But there are many differences not mentioned or understood. First, the definition of a Ned rig - note the words in bold:
A Ned Rig is a very simplistic bait and presentation at its core – it is the most do-nothing looking rig and one of the most effective fish catchers. Born out of the Midwest finesse bass fishing niche by Ned Kehde, the Ned Rig is simply a small plastic, usually 2 to 3 inches long, rigged on a mushroom head jig.
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The shape on the right is the only similarity - this time.
When and where to throw a Ned Rig: You want to make sure fish are relating to the bottom and that the bottom is fairly clean. Neither of these are a complete deal breaker but rather a good general rule of thumb. The central component of a Ned Rig is the Jig head or Ned head. A Ned head has a flat surface to it so the bait will stand up when dragged across the bottom. Grab a light, 1/16- or 1/8-ounce lead head jig like the Finesse ShroomZ, cut a 5″ stick bait in half (or grab the Finesse TRD) and thread it on. Z -Man ElaZtech is a proprietary material that renders soft baits resistant to rips and tears and floats upright on the bottom.
Once on the bottom, give it a minute to let the fish get a look. Bait action is imparted by the angler in the form of subtle hops and twitches, separated by pauses while the bait settles through the water column to the bottom. Slow and subtle is good; slower and subtler is better.


1. What I cast is far from a do-nothing bottom rig. In fact, the lures have as much if not more action than most lures and that action is imparted constantly by the angler. The slow, twitch & pause angler-imparted action is the only similarity.

2. Ned head - a mushroom or flathead jig defines the Ned Rig.
Fact : I never use anything but ball head jigs and never use 1/8 oz. My jigs range from 1/32 - 1/24 oz. which allows slower retrieves mid-depth. The reason a flat head is used is to work the lure on the bottom. Lures like the Sassy Shad and and other swimbaits, are usually worked parallel to the bottom on a steady retrieve. But I work my micro-plastics by twitching & pausing the lures all the way, rarely letting them rest on bottom (unless when lighting my pipe.)

3. The design of the Ned Rig Lure is a fat stick 3" long. My small plastics are less than 2" and thin in diameter. Even a curl-tail grub with the tail removed has a darting action the Ned Rig lure doesn't. The action of the Ned Rig is totally different than that imparted to a small plastic, no-tail lure mid-depth.

4. Being a bottom lure, Ned lures don't cover near as much water as small twitched small plastics. Yesterday I hit a shallow flat pattern anchored in a few spots. I cast all around the boat in 2' and caught a bunch of fish. The bottom had a lot of soft algae so the Ned would not have worked by dragging it.

5. The variety of small plastic shapes is limitless unlike short thick Ned sticks. Even one shape will do well 100 % of the time though I like to make believe that more shapes make thing more interesting to fish.
Here's a body-to-body melted together that caught fish rigged from the front or wacky rigged:
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1/32 oz jig with #6 hook

111 fish on Wed., 63 fish on Thurs. (short stay due to 20 mph wind) and 69 fish last Fri. blow away the numbers of fish limited by the Ned Rig. Small plastics on light jigs is a totally different way to fish than the Ned Rig or using swimbaits. Species caught on light jig and small plastics: crappie, white and yellow perch, sunfish, bass.
(unless when lighting my pipe.) Argument is over. If you smoke a pipe, you win. Nuff said.
 
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I don't like the general description grub. There are hundreds of small plastics that aren't like Mr. Twister's curl tail Grub. More specific names are more descriptive such as mini stick, prong/stinger tail, cone tail. bulb tail, no-tail, feather tail or hair tail, delta tails on a flat body, thin straight tail, etc.
Plus, there are better shapes (like the above) that do well wacky rigged (center hooked) or rigged the usual way with a jig or nose hooked and some that do well used under a float like this one caught Sat. by my buddy's grandson. (his first pick); (up until that day he only used live bait.)
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Lure action speaks louder than words to fish that are hypersensitive to lure motion, and my belief is that some actions are superior to others much of the time depending on speed and type of retrieve. When I post photos of lures, the reason is for everyone to note shape and tail or no tail. If I had an aquarium, I could video each action for you and as fish see and feel the lure in action. A true Ned Rig uses a specific shape and size soft plastic that produces a specific action - one that is limited when it comes certain retrieves.

I know you all have your tried & true favorites that work as well as anything I post, but for me, buying more lures I don't need, regardless of the positive reports or media hype, has been replaced by discoveries of really great (and usually) unique designs that fish smash with gusto! Anyone can try them just for the H of it and see what I'm talking about.

Do yourself a favor and remove the curly tail off a 3" grub; rig it on a 1/32 oz jig and use the twitch & pause retrieve after casting it a long distance in shallow water. Believe it or not it blows most lures away for numbers of fish - including nice ones! The example below is the first fish I caught on it and 30+ more that day. Who knew?!!!
 
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