Hook keeps popping out - switch to braid?

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salmon_slayer87

Yea. it is a super strong alternative to mono...but i havent had much success with braid. I swear you have to fish just a little bit different...i think its because i lose sensitivity in the line. I might be over thinking it tho. haha.
later guys,
Dale
 
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alm21

Surprisingly, no acrobatics, they are just diving deep and fighting hard. The pig this morning was a tank and was playing me more than me playing him/her. By your statistics, I'm probably doing average Caught 1 lost 3. I guess I'm used to landing more fish and can't help but try to figure out how I can increase my odds.


Yup, when I'm not on the water, I'm thinking about tactics, techniques, where to go, all the above, striving to become better. I can over analyze at times. Reminds me of trying to develop and dial in a golf swing (which I have yet to do - rather be fishing).


I've been using size 1 Owner SSW hooks and some size 2 (running eggs or plastic worm on them). I've contemplated giving it a second hook set because the bite is so settle and usually feels like a rock bump or snag and I'm oftern gun shy of setting the hook too hard when running bait because if it's not a fish, very likely I'll be rebaiting and burning up the bait too quickly (or ducking the incoming weight and hook). As mad as I get and telling myself f*** this, the end result is a relentless drive to succeed and get back at it until I do. My name is Alex and I'm a fishing addict.


Agreed, keeping the positive attitude is a must and take my licks in stride.


I like your perspective Randy. So many things running through my head when I have a fish on and it's easy to second guess myself after the fact.


I don't disagree but I have to admit that I snag up on other people's mono 90% of the time rather than braid yet I see a ton of people fishing braid. But snagging braid does suck big time.

Yeah you should at least buy some braided and try it out. I use braid to flip spinners and I wont go back now...

I think may try it just to see for myself since my current line is getting low on the spool and is nearing the time to change out anyway.
 
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fish4life
I noticed less lost fish when I started fishing with a 8-17# rod vs.8-12# rod I think the rod is a little stiffer at the tip and allows fo better hook set. I had a day on the Clack where I lost 9 fish in a row and the was using owner needle point hooks. It seemed like they were not hardened enough and tip of hook would bend over. Not to say they are bad hooks but just my experience with them. I have used other owner hooks on spinners and plugs and they have worked fine. I had picked up rapala hooks by vmc at eagle bargain store in Sandy and have had very good results with these hooks in 1/0 size but I'm not sure if they still make these. And have also had good luck with size 1 gamakatsu octopus hooks.
 
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alm21
Well, I switched out my line and decided to try Berkley's Fire Line Fused (20lb). Went and hit the water with Steelhead Slayer and his buddy on Sunday. Fishing was really slow, nothing for me (although SS got one and his buddy lost one after I left). Met up with the guys this afternoon and I had a fish on (I gave it a couple extra good hook sets). Water was clear so I did get a good look at the fish. Probably a good 8lbr. Anyway, fought it for a bit and it decided to go airborne. On the second launch, it spit the hook. I've come to the conclusion that this is what steelheading is all about. After losing fish #4 in a row, I wasn't too upset. I figure that I'll get my fish eventually. Just enjoying the ride for now.

I do like the Fire Line so far, casts really nice and has good sensitivity. Picked up some Gamakatsu hooks to see if I like them any better than owner. That is my next step in tuning my setup.

BTW, the fish took corkie and yarn (Steelhead Stalker yarn). Used pink colors and I had a little sand shrimp gel.
 
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steelhead1
Hooking steelhead is in itself an acomplishment,you are well on your way. It is natural to be frustrated losing fish after fish,but any steel fisherman that claims it has never happened to them,doesn't catch a lot of fish anyway,or is lying to you....When I have one of those trying stretches and lose more than a few in a row,I go heavy (er) on the gear and put the hurt to that next fish,drag him up before he even knows whats going on....
 
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alm21
When I have one of those trying stretches and lose more than a few in a row,I go heavy (er) on the gear and put the hurt to that next fish,drag him up before he even knows whats going on....

Funny you mention that. I was thinking about tying up some leaders using the Gama hooks and going with 15lb leader instead of 10lb. I use Izorline for leader and in my experience, find it to have low visibility so I think I might get away with 15lb. I'll probably give it a go. All bets are off now!
 
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salmon_slayer87

I limited out last summer on steels...I hooked 10 or so...but my point is that i was using 15lb main and 15lb leader...those fish didn't have a chance...but like a said earlier in this thread...if you break off in your fishing hole...you'll have one more obsticle to miss. good luck buddy.
 
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halibuthitman
One of the best steelhead fishermen I know of was on a 12 fish losing streak just last week, and out of the roughly 65-75 fish his group has hooked in the last 2 weeks they have landed mabe 30.. and these are every day professional steelhead fishermen in the top 20% of the field- Me, I land every single fish I hook on days I don't take a camera, 1 out of 3 or 4on days That the camera is there.. moral of the story even pro's sometimes suck and never take a camera-
 
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alm21

Well I tied up some leaders using 12lb leader but I'm going to shelve them until we get a bit more water.


12 in a row! God, please don't let that happen to me! ray: That probably makes me proportionately on track since I've caught 1 and lost 4 in a row so far.
 
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Lowell Life Fisherman
you dont need braid for steelhead unless you are bobber and jig fishing, but even then you really only need it if you are casting a long distance to keep the belly out of your line in oreder to get a decent hook set, where with mono its almost impossible.

 
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Lowell Life Fisherman
on top of that i hardly ever use any heavier than 8lb mono for steelhead of all seasons. if i need heavier i never go over 10 lb, you need to keep in mind with clear water like in most places i fish steelies are really line shy.
 
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Lowell Life Fisherman
thanks for mentioning me in your post cousin, its so nice of you to talk so highly of me! but remember i been out of the steelie game for a few years now, so when i get back you may jusy whoop my ass!!!
 

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