I caught my first 2 carp on a fly this weekend. Used a 6# rod with no fighting butt. i really could have used one. The second carp weighed 10lbs 5oz. i don't know what the first carp was but it was about the same size. Lost a third fish moments after the hookup due to my flyline getting caught on the fishing vest and it snapped the line before i got it untangled. Awesome fighers....... especilly if you dont' mind your line backing getting used.