Thanks Modest_Man great vids. I will ad to my fishing library. The reason I ask for some input is that I just finished taking a Shakespeare TP1050B(6.3 meters) 6 section Tenkara "Wonderpole" and converted to a 21ft spey rod with 3 different tips with a 620 grain forward line. Two years ago I ran across beautiful waters that the seams were 80 to 100 feet away even wading chest high. Gonna throw 3" wet flies. Why! Cuz I can! Yes it's in Oregon. CC