trophy???

trophy???

  • yes

    Votes: 10 32.3%
  • no

    Votes: 21 67.7%

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halibuthitman

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Do you personally feel that a an oversize sturgeon caught with a guide is the same qaulity of trophy as if you had caught it in your own boat in your own spot?
 
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Troutier Bassier

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Nope, Guides do the work for you.
Some of them even set the hook.
 
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frodog

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I thinck a trophy is as a trophy does. I have never fished with a guide so I don't know about it however many guides and I share the same spots. so it may be luck of the draw.
 
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Hooking

Hooking

Hooking the over sized fish is the easy part, if you have ever fought a fish for a couple of hours you wouldn't be so free with your "nope". Most captains take a guide a few times a year, not that they can't catch fish on their own but want the peace of being a passenger; no worries just fishing. My vote is; its still a record and should be enjoyed.
So if you buy a boat and catch a record fish is it really yours or is it the boats? All you did is wind it in.

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To me catching a trophy is finding the hole, doing my own rigging, and setting my own hook set! But I have a boat, this is a loaded question, because guide's play an important role for a lot of people! I do as good or better than guide's usually;) while sturgeon fishing, but I use a guide for steelhead twice a year and love it! It's nice to just jump in the drifter and fish, and not to have to worry about anything!
 
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I'd have to say no but this goes along with most things.

Did you feel better in school when you got an A by yourself or an A by cheating?

You still get the A but it feels better when you earn it.
 
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My Friend Scarred me Today,
He called me Randomly saying, 'Dude! My dad just hooked us up with a Guide for Oversized Sturgeon!!!!"

Of Course he was Kidding.

But Id have to agree with a lot of you. Sometimes, I just want to relax when I fish, So a Guide would be Perfect. I have Landed 1 Oversizer. 80 Inchs. But It was Hard, I had all new stuff so I had to put line on the reel thread line throgh Guides, rig up, Unrig cause I forgot Slider, Rig again, Leader, Then tie on a Sardine.

A Guide could just do all that crap for me :) And even better, I could land 3 or 6 Oversizers in a day, Unlike hooking 2 and Landing 1. Guides are better then me and My dad.
 
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Cheating

Cheating

I'd have to say no but this goes along with most things.

Did you feel better in school when you got an A by yourself or an A by cheating?

You still get the A but it feels better when you earn it.


Did you really say that? I can't believe you said that:shock:

GM
 
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I would like to add that I fish almost every new river with a guide first... its like gaining 25 yrs of riverology in 6 hrs, usally increases my futer catch ratio by double, I love guides and support them on every turn, and usally give leeway to the professional rivermen.... but I have never considered the fish from those days comprable trophys.. never thought of it as cheatin though, more like havin cliff's notes!
 
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how many elk and deer mounts do you see that were taken by the knowledge of a guide?

same consideration, the true arguement of this topic is if the person will confess it was caught/taken with the knowledge of a guide.



not one person on the planet is a true expert on all areas and species, thus we have all seeked the services of experts and guides.

it is the knowledge that we gain from these experiences that make it a trophy or not.


I have seen hundreds of professional guides and anglers along river banks and bodies of water filled with boats. isn't it always the 9 year old daughter that nets the biggest fish of the day?
 
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Things get off track really quick. This thread isn't about Guides, which I'll use a guide if I get a chance, it's about the fish you catch while your with a guide or not.

Focus People! :p
 
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Wow! not the results I had expected.....80% not as good, too bad all 200 views hadn't voted.. might have been different. But lets remember the eternal words of a wise fisherman.... ANY fish, is a good fish-
 
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halibuthitman

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AHHH dropped to 70% the tide is turning! I guess us "no" guys were a little quicker to vote. ( just posting to keep the poll on the today list )
 
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I'm going to go with joesnuffy on this one. It's all about the fish you catch isn't it? The guide simply introduces you to new water and tells you what to use. The guide doesn't hook the fish, play the fish or land the fish. You act on your own experience. Unless you are a total dufus and know absolutely nothing about fishing, I'd say that a trophy fish that you caught that someone else happened to point out to you, is the same as if you caught it otherwise. Just my opinion:cool:
 
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I've been on both sides, and for me, I enjoyed it more on my boat, my spot, my rigging, my oversize without help, etc.

This is not to dismiss the value of a guide or to belittle them in any way. As a matter of fact, I attended a Sturgeon seminar last year held by a guide and learned a lot. Not to mention, I have had some of the best fishing trips in my life with them.

My 2 cents

-Paul
 
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usually I run the other way from these debates, but what the heck I am bored today. This is sort of my take on this, I have a friend who is an avid Sturgeon fisherman, has a boat and all of the right gear. He begged me to go one day because he could not get his regular Sturgeon buddies to go and he needed help on board. I agreed to go but knew not one thing about this type of fishing. He did all of the work, got us in position, rigged the poles, baited the lines, and coached me on when to stop letting out line. I cought many nice Sturgeon that day, no keepers, but these were nice in the way that they were my first Sturgeon.

So because Chris is not a professional guide, should I feel less pleased with the results of the day? No, I still hooked the fish and landed the fish, two poles in the water have a 50/50 chance.

For me, it would not matter whether or not I got a trophy fish using a giude or going with my friend. With a guide you are paying for their knowledge in my mind.
 
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I would say a trouphy is a trouphy just some might have been taken on other terms than others.... would rather do it all on my own though
 
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Momma Mia

Momma Mia

Tell you what, if a trophy fish came flipping it's way across the water,landed in my arms and called me "Momma" :shock: it would still be MY trophy fish! :dance: As long as I am the one on the receiving end,nobody is gonna get it away from me as long as it's legal size. :naughty: :D :lol: :lol:

Be safe.
Barb
 
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