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Im sick and tired of my schools blocked websites. They have blocked all the websites that ive been trying to go to. to be able to do research for the fishign tournament im trying to start. It keeps saying that its a forum or its a security risk. for god sakes i didn't know the ODFW website was a security risk. And i dont get why i can get on OFF when its clearly a forum. god i swear the people who mad websense were dumb*****.
 
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Maybe since youre at school, you should be studying, and not cruising the web for fishing reports? lol I just love what my tax money is buying these days! Without a good education youll be stuck in a crappy job with no time to fish, and no money to buy gear. Just something to keep in mind.
 
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I know what your talking about, but I spent my time in high school tryin to get on myspace and facebook. I was all about sports and girls! Depending on how smart your schools tech guy is, there are ways around them. Some easy, some very very elaborate. I can't tell you what to do, Nor do I think kids should be able to. But I'll give you a tip. Make friends with some computer smart kids. They always had somethin.
 
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hahahahahah i manage websense for the company i work for.. i do information security for a living.. forums like OFF get through because the servers they are hosted on are not known "forum" hosting servers and configuration is not standard for "forums" so doesn't get grouped in, they get labeled as "sports"... and if they locked down "forums"... "proxies" bypass sites will be blocked as well santiamdrifter .. websense is actually a very good product and is doing it's job pretty good, if someone were to send websense a recatagorization request for www.oregonfishingofrum.com to be changed from "sports" to "forums" it would be blocked in hours world wide. i don't know why odfw www.dfw.state.or.us would be blocked, it is by default catagorized as "government" and is open by default, they must have tighened the belt and blocked that catagory. you can always ask your teacher to send a request to have the site unblocked by IT and if you give them a good school related reason i bet they would open it up for you.
 
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then he would get in trouble for trying to go on. I would recomend lazytaster.com. Lots of ads and audio

i edited my post as you were replying. i added a few things..

and lazytaster.com is catagorized as "proxy avoidance" and will be blocked..
 
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When wrote this thread earlier today i was in my senior seminar class. its a lass where seniors like my self do research for their senior projects. I wasn't cruseing the internet for facebook or myspace. I was trying to go to websites that would have any info for the fishing tournament im trying to host. It pisses me off when i can't even to a little research for it.
 
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hahahahahah i manage websense for the company i work for.. i do information security for a living.. forums like OFF get through because the servers they are hosted on are not known "forum" hosting servers and configuration is not standard for "forums" so doesn't get grouped in, they get labeled as "sports"... and if they locked down "forums"... "proxies" bypass sites will be blocked as well santiamdrifter .. websense is actually a very good product and is doing it's job pretty good, if someone were to send websense a recatagorization request for www.oregonfishingofrum.com to be changed from "sports" to "forums" it would be blocked in hours world wide. i don't know why odfw Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife would be blocked, it is by default catagorized as "government" and is open by default, they must have tighened the belt and blocked that catagory. you can always ask your teacher to send a request to have the site unblocked by IT and if you give them a good school related reason i bet they would open it up for you.

Blah! I can't stand our Websense...I often search for solutions to coding issues (computer programming) and often a discussion of problem resolution is on someone's tech-oriented blog. Of course, our admins don't want people wasting time on personal blogs, so I can't see them.

So, being a tech guy myself, with ability to install software on my PC, let's just say that an always-on internet connection at home, port forwarding on the home router, OpenSSH running, putty on my work computer forwarding an SSH tunnel through port 443 to look like SSL traffic, and configuring my browser for a SOCKS host through that tunnel solved THAT problem ;)

Like SantiamDrifter says, make friends with a 'computer smart' kid :)
 
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Um yeah what he said thats the same thing I would do. Um yeah if I worked on a PC an work Im mean.
 
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I totally agree and a ssl vpn back home is just about the only way to get around it.. unless you happen to have the websense version that we have (dlp) that man in the middles all internet traffic allowing you to decrypt and filter any encrypted traffic and stop any protocol being tunneled on any port the firewall allows outbound traffic on and then it re-encrypts legit traffic to keep everything flowing..

Your IT dept should open up an hour or 2 of quota browsing time for blogs and they can configure it just for you and your programming co-workers..

I should find some of these "computer smart kids" to explain this pc stuff to me.
 
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I totally agree and a ssl vpn back home is just about the only way to get around it.. unless you happen to have the websense version that we have (dlp) that man in the middles all internet traffic allowing you to decrypt and filter any encrypted traffic and stop any protocol being tunneled on any port the firewall allows outbound traffic on and then it re-encrypts legit traffic to keep everything flowing..

Your IT dept should open up an hour or 2 of quota browsing time for blogs and they can configure it just for you and your programming co-workers..

Man you guys are making my head hurt. I dont know a VPN from a HPD can we talk about some CDC or BWO. :lol::lol:

Sorry I will stop Hijacking now
 
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.. unless you happen to have the websense version that we have (dlp) that man in the middles all internet traffic allowing you to decrypt and filter any encrypted traffic and stop any protocol being tunneled on any port the firewall allows outbound traffic on and then it re-encrypts legit traffic to keep everything flowing..

Yeah, I knew there were ways to block my method and I got lucky that our people either aren't that savvy, or didn't have the correct configurations/tools to detect/block it, or just don't care enough about the scant few of us that might be doing this to bother with the effort :)
 
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Blah! I can't stand our Websense...I often search for solutions to coding issues (computer programming) and often a discussion of problem resolution is on someone's tech-oriented blog. Of course, our admins don't want people wasting time on personal blogs, so I can't see them.

So, being a tech guy myself, with ability to install software on my PC, let's just say that an always-on internet connection at home, port forwarding on the home router, OpenSSH running, putty on my work computer forwarding an SSH tunnel through port 443 to look like SSL traffic, and configuring my browser for a SOCKS host through that tunnel solved THAT problem ;)

Like SantiamDrifter says, make friends with a 'computer smart' kid :)

Somehow you mentioned the very option I didn't want to tell the kid. 11th grade, I figured out how to backdoor them. But I got sidetracked by a blonde sitting in front of me lol
 
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Im sick and tired of my schools blocked websites. They have blocked all the websites that ive been trying to go to. to be able to do research for the fishign tournament im trying to start. It keeps saying that its a forum or its a security risk. for god sakes i didn't know the ODFW website was a security risk. And i dont get why i can get on OFF when its clearly a forum. god i swear the people who mad websense were dumb*****.

instead of "http://" try https:// teachers at school use oit when they need youtube etc.
 
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Yeah, I knew there were ways to block my method and I got lucky that our people either aren't that savvy, or didn't have the correct configurations/tools to detect/block it, or just don't care enough about the scant few of us that might be doing this to bother with the effort :)

I am just in charge of maintaining multiple compliance and securing a couple million stored cc#'s, 10s of million cc tranactions and 3/4 of a million ss#'s and other personal data.. likely even yours. So I tend to take this stuff serious.. your backdoor to make work easy is just a hack that could be a backdoor to funnel info out, maybe without you knowing. I understand the frustration you have, I deal with people all the time and try to make better policies to help them( like in your case) but if I found an employee had setup a backdoor like yours they would be fired on the spot and require a investigation I rather not have to do.

That's why we have tight firewalls, content filtering, email filters/scanners(inbound and outbound), dlp, ids/ips(for external), ips(for interna)l, internal hardware firewalled network segments(not just vlan's), siem, av, no local admin, tight group policies, seperation of duties/access for everyone(even IT admins), usb ports(other then keyboard and mouse)/cdr/dvdr are disabled unless approved(exec's& IT) which they are forced to use an endpoint encryption just like our laptops, to name a few of our safegards to keep our data ours. I am trying to find the best os application whitelist program that only allows approved apps to run and encrypts the exe's, dll's, ini's, ect. to keep them pure past hashing.

Information Security guys aren't just out to make your life hell, we are out to keep your employeer from losses that cost you your job or closing up shop completely due to fines and brand loss. Content filter may be in place to keep people from wasting time online on unsafe websites(if people want to waste time they can talk with people around the office) but it also keeps the company from getting hit with say a sexual harassment suit because someone was offended when they walked by what their cube neighbor and saw what they were looking at online and because the company didn't have 'reasonal' safegaurds in place to stop it they are just as liable as the cube neighbor.

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Doesn't it seem pretty messed up that some of you are trying to advise a kid of how to get around the security/safety system? It's in place for a reason, to keep kids out of places they don't belong like porn sites, forums with pedophiles, etc. Perhaps the best advice is to ask his instructor for help, or to go home and do his research. Most of us got through high school just fine without computers, it's not the only method of research, but it is handy.
 
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not really, im sure he would be smart enough to notice a sex offender type person... they block so many useful sites these days you have no idea. sometimes when i can't use https i have to do work at home instead.. its a pain in the ass
 
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