I fish regularly out at a place called Dog Creek on the Clackamas, and everytime I'm there there are gentlemen who I have come to know really well, and they happen to have, and use strictly Spey rods. Basically a two handed cast, with a special rod built for just this activity. They have special casting techniques, and most Spey rods are over 10'... They see me drift fishing egg patterns, or baitholders hooks with an egg on it, with monofilament tied to my fly line, not a tippet. And they used to think I was some dumb kid, but I out fish them all the time, and we all have laughs about the young "snapper" (me) out fishing the purists. They just get hot and bothered when I catch fish and they don't. They know I am not takin there hole, or casting over the top of them, so they flip me comments about being a "proper, not proper fly fisherman." They say this because I tend to act like I know what I am doing, and I don't get in anyones way, but I generally don't use traditional flies. Just our way of bein funny I guess. But I am not trying to fued with any angler here, or out on Dog Creek. I just do things a little differently, and they have come to realize that I am sorta competent, and I am respectful of the fishery, and most of the folks who fish it. So we are friends now, and those guys can be ruthless to less respectful fishermen who tend to crowd this one hole, instead of getting in on a cast rotation... So I'm happy those guys put up with me re-writing their books.:lol: