Is this a Kokanee

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bd2cool
Hi,

OK I might be a idiot.
Here is a picture of a fish that I caught this fall at Hampton Landing on the upper end of LookOut Point,
For years I have been calling these Kokanee.
But I read that there are no Kokanee in LookOut Point.
What ever they are they are fun to catch and taste great.
I have been catching these thing out of LookOut Point for years.
Let me know what the heck I have been eating!:)
 
O
osmosis
Are there any spots on it/them, or not? can't tell from the pic.
between the Tail and anal ray looks like it's a koke.
 
B
bd2cool
No spots.Kind of a dark blue-green upper 1/3 of the body and then silver on the rest of the body. The mouth is darker then what you would see on a rainbow.
 
O
osmosis
my guess is kokanee.
I can see pretty well that there are no spots on the tail, so I wouldnt call it chinook.
 
M
Mokai
It is a landlocked Juvenile Chinook Salmon ODFW puts adults in the lake and these are there offspring. There are some really good sized ones in there now..
 
O
osmosis
He said there were no spots. even juvenile chinook have spots all over their backs and on their tail.

Maybe it was another one of ODFW's daily mistakes.
 
C
chris61182
It's hard to tell from your photo what exactly it is. And also they don't all have well defined spots but up close they're clearly different from kokes.

Here are a couple from Green Peter.
 
A
ArcticAmoeba
Yeah hose are Kokanee! Oh ze memories of the little stillwater "Salmon.":rolleyes: Yeah it is kind of hard to tell from the photo. It doesn't really look like a Kokanee, but I have also hooked a bunch of landlocked Chinook, snd they were quite a bit different...Shape-wise especially. Hmm, my guess is ODFW screwed up, and these fish are magically inter-spawning...and it is a new species..Chinokanee... MMM tasty.:rolleyes: Its a Koke, look at the mouth right?? I mean, I have no idea how many I have caught, but I'm pretty sure that is a Kokanee. They have a pretty unigue mooth. Big ol gobblers!
 
Troutski
Troutski
Black mouth...

Black mouth...

Check the mouth, if it is black then it is a Chinook. As far as ODFW making a mistake and these being a cross between a Chinook and a Koke; in order for them to be half breeds then there would have to be a Koke in the mix and there are not now or have there been any Kokes in Lookout Point Res.. This also goes for Hills Creek res. and Cougar Res. for years anglers have been mistaking Chinook for Kokes in these lakes, like what was said before these Chinooks are getting to be a very large fish and great table fare.

Chuck
 
B
bd2cool
The votes are in and I am a idiot!:D
The mouth is black on these fish.
All these years I though that I was catching Kokes out of LookOut.

Thank everyone for clearing that up for me.
 
C
chris61182
bd2cool said:
The votes are in and I am a idiot!:D

I wouldn't be too hard on yourself, there's a good reason the regulations last year moved the chinook from the trout limit to the kokanee limit in the lakes with both.
 
Raincatcher
Raincatcher
My fellow Americans...

My fellow Americans...

I hope all of you,my fellow fisher folk, realize how much you contribute to my learning curve! Sometimes it's hard to digest it all, that is the beauty of having it all in print on the website,I will just keep "chewing" away at it and someday I will be as smart and "fishwise" as the rest of you. Thank you!
Barb
 
G
GoDucks1
Catching these buggers

Catching these buggers

Can you catch these chinooks from the bank up there? If so, can anybody recommend a spot and what kind of lure/bait to use?


Go Ducks!
 
B
bd2cool
When the lake is full I always have good luck at Hampton Landing or if it is pack fishing from the railroad bridge. I use worms,floating in the current or using a bobber. Both works great on these fish.
 
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M
mikeredding
The following is a quote I recieved via email from ODFW after Troutski and I had a debate regarding Kokes in Lookout Point:

"ODFW stocked kokanee years and years ago into Lookout Point Res. I don't believe any are left. I certainly haven't seen any in gill net samples set in the Reservoir or in screw trap samples below the Reservoir in the last several years."
 
O
Oregonchris
Ok just a quick question...I have never caught a land locked chinook....Are their mouths soft like a kokanee?
 
M
mikeredding
I haven't had a problem with it so I never really paid attention.
 
1
1aB
If the two species are crossing, I kinda like the names "chokes" or "kooks".
 
E
eric71m
I learned that the sure fire way to tell a Koke from any other species fish is by the quantiy of gill rakers... Kokes have gill rakers in the high thirtys and fortys, all others are in the low to mid 20's...
 
J
JeannaJigs
1aB said:
If the two species are crossing, I kinda like the names "chokes" or "kooks".
Old post I just checked, I'm with you, I like the concept of chokes lol
 

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