Hey y'all, I'm headed to Oregon

ArkansasAngler

New member
Greetings all of you at OFF! I just found this site and I'm glad I did (I also love Vbulletin)

I'm going to be in the Salem/Portland area on one of the weekends near the end of May this year for a wedding. Since Oregon is known for good fishing, I figure I have to take advantage of the situation.

I'm mostly interested in TROUT. But, are there any other types of fish that can be caught at that time of year? I wouldn't be opposed to catching bigger fish if they are available.

Being from Arkansas, I've had the opportunity to fish some great trout fisheries here. (little red and white rivers, plus yearly stocker places)

I'd mostly be interested in places that:

1. Are accessible from the bank or wading. If worst comes to worst I need to be able to rent a boat for a day.
2. Aren't just yearly stockers. I can catch 10-12" stocker rainbows at home.
3. Are scenic. I want to enjoy the beauty of the country. I don't want to sit on a concrete dam. Again, that is because there are plenty of dams I can sit on in Arkansas.
4. Aren't too crowded. Although the trout areas here are crowded, if this is possible then I'd rather be less crowded. Of course the better areas are crowded...so catch 22.
5. Anything is preferrable to rainbows and browns. I catch them here and would like to catch different kinds of fish.
6. Aren't overly restrictive on technique. Around here there are artificial, single barbless hook, catch and release only areas. What can I expect to be the norm there?

Obviously the imporance goes down as the list goes on. I'm very familiar with overcoming adversity while fishing so I expect the worst. Also, I have rainclouds that follow me around so unfortunately for the rest of you, it will be raining when I visit. Sorry.

I will only have a couple days to fish. I would love to hike in somewhere and fish a remote area but I just won't have time.

Tackle:

I use spinning tackle with 4-8# line around here. The water is always a shade of stained and I do fine with 8# green shaded mono. I'm planning on bringing a 2-piece rod with a light action for trout fishing. I'm thinking 4# line...what diameter should I shoot for? My rod is only 5'6, the brushy areas around here require a shorter rod. Will that be a problem?

I slaughter the nice sized trout using larger lures than other fisherman. I think there is a preconceived notion that you have to use tiny baits for trout that exists here. With the water conditions and the sheer size of the trout, I do well with larger lures. Example being, most people will use a tiny rooster tail while I'll go with a larger spinner with 2x as large of a hook. I catch a lot of nice sized browns, especially in bad conditions when people using live/power bait catch only stocker rainbows. I wish I had a picture of the 6" brown I caught on a big spinner...the hook was literally as big as the fish could open its mouth. I still don't know how he got his mouth on that hook.

Does the clear water that abounds your area dictate smaller lures? I may have to stock up. I have a lot of roosters. Bumblebee is awesome around here. Well, I've caught fish on a bumblebee rooster everywhere I've ever fished. I can catch largemouths of good size on these as well as the smallest panfish.

Do rapala minnows work? I get lots of trout on countdowns in either a largemouth or brown trout pattern.

In fact, the brown trout pattern is my most productive color for almost any bait. That may be because they are the only trout that reproduces naturally in the waters I fish. They never see baby rainbows.

How about rebel crawfish crankers? These catch fish like crazy. I also use the medium size to catch smallmouth. Are crawfish even indiginous up there? What color works best? I generally use a red/black or natural color.


I don't have many spoons or flies. Can I survive a trip without an expensive arsenal of flies? I generally use a clear bobber that you can fill with water tied 4' above the fly with spinning tackle. What spoons (brand, color, size) should I look for? Do I even need a spoon this time of year?

We don't have massive insect hatches here so I don't even know the types. Midge? Caddis? It's all greek to me. I know about house flies, deer flies, and horse flies.


Is it too much to expect a place that has brookies packed in like cordwood, isn't crowded, is easy to wade or bank fish, and is breathtakingly beautiful?:lol::lol::D

I'll keep you updated with my plans if you're interested.

If any of you ever take a fishing trip to Arkansas (or Louisiana) then I can offer up some good advice. (largemouth, smallmouth, striped/hybrid, giant rainbows or browns, catfish, gar, crappie, and gulf fish like redfish and speckled trout)
 

18406ej

Well-known member
ArkansasAngler,

Welcome to OFF- you are correct in being glad you found this site, as it is the best forum for the exchange of ideas and as a source of information. You will have all of your questions answered here. May I suggest that you start by browsing some of the older posts using the search feature in order to answer some of your questions?

Please do keep us updated with your plans as your trip to Oregon draws closer. We are a sharing group, and I have no doubt that you will have a plethora of "secret" spots from which to choose when you arrive.

Welcome again,
 

Outdrsmn

Member
You coming to a place with thousands of beautiful spots. Unfortunately i am not from the portland area and i do not know many spots up there. If you are willing to travel a ways then i could help. Salmon and Steelhead will be running at that time as well. BIG fish. I would hire a guide if you are going that route though.
 

FishFinger

Well-known member
Welcome to the forum, we look forward to helping you devise a plan of attack for your visit.

This is a great part of our country.... Even better when your hookin' into fish; and that what we'll aim to do!
 

Hawk

Well-known member
Welcome to the Family Brother Arkansas Angler.......................:D:D:D

I don't live by Salem but in the spring i mostly c&r quite a few bass,trout, catfish, maybe crappie, etc.........

I use some shallow & deep diving Rapala lures in earthtone colors, spinnerbaits, jigs, plastics, etc

also nightcrawlers or powerbait usually works.....................:lol::lol::lol:


Catch some Big'Un Lunkers................& Drive Safely

Take Care

Grizz...................thar is much of mother natures beauty in the forest & along the waterways.
 

joesnuffy

Active member
I'd say your best bet if your coming all the way here and want to catch big fish is to higher a guide. They'll have the correct gear, correct locations and you can spend more time relaxing. Just a thought.
 

Raincatcher

Moderator
Welcome

Welcome

ArkansasAngler;
Welcome to OFF,known far and wide as the friendliest and most informative fishing forum you could hope to find! :D
That being said, please don't discount the fact that a bunch of our members are super hospitable and may follow in Troutski's tracks and OFFer to take you out for a fantastic day on our beautiful waters in their boats or on their favorite banks. Be sure to check out his posts for his adventures with a member from Michigan,Minnesota or one of those frozen tundra states.lol They had a great time and it was the generous OFFer that brought two new fishing buddies together. Let us know your plans as they develop and let's see what we can come up with.
In the meantime, do you have any pics of those huge fish? We love pictures, don't we y'all? Be safe.
Barb
 

ArkansasAngler

New member
I'd say your best bet if your coming all the way here and want to catch big fish is to higher a guide. They'll have the correct gear, correct locations and you can spend more time relaxing. Just a thought.

Yes, as of right now I'm considering a 1 day guided float for the larger fish like steelhead. I'd have to use a guide for the boat and tackle since I can't fly it out.

I would also like to try a day of something by myself though...I don't like using guides unless I absolutely need their gear.

I'm going to see if I can dig up anything where I can do a day of wading and/or hiking into a scenic place to catch brookies or other trout in smaller waters.

Is there anywhere to fish out at the silver falls area? I heard the hiking was nice but I haven't heard anything about fishing.

How big of water is the Santiam above and below lake Detroit?

I might consider renting a canoe for a half-day float if there is a place available that will do dropoff and pickup.
 

ArkansasAngler

New member
ArkansasAngler;
Welcome to OFF,known far and wide as the friendliest and most informative fishing forum you could hope to find! :D
That being said, please don't discount the fact that a bunch of our members are super hospitable and may follow in Troutski's tracks and OFFer to take you out for a fantastic day on our beautiful waters in their boats or on their favorite banks. Be sure to check out his posts for his adventures with a member from Michigan,Minnesota or one of those frozen tundra states.lol They had a great time and it was the generous OFFer that brought two new fishing buddies together. Let us know your plans as they develop and let's see what we can come up with.
In the meantime, do you have any pics of those huge fish? We love pictures, don't we y'all? Be safe.
Barb

I don't really have any fish pictures handy but I could see what I can dig up. I know I have some largemouths and hybrids that I may be able to scan in. I don't usually carry a camera/cell phone with me on the trout fishing trips because my dad and I fish from a canoe and might tip over.

We have yet to catch a trout out of the slot limit though...anything between 16 and 24 inches has to be released immediately. I've caught a couple in the slot and my dad caught about a 6 lb brown this winter.

I consider 3 lbs a "big" brown. I usually get at least 1 in that range per day trip. I hooked one once that I swear was about 2 feet long and as big around as my thigh. It broke off though like the big ones tend to do....the drag system on my reel broke. There is a 40 lb brown mounted at Lobo Landing which is where the main boat launch is for that stretch.

The really really big ones feed at night and I'm trying to convince my dad to take me out in his boat on a full moon in the summer. I've seen a few 10+ pounders (bows and browns) that were caught at night. I hear it's much like fishing for catfish where you rig a huge nightcrawler up and ease it into the rootballs and fallen log areas.

My next foray into Arkansas trout waters is March 28. I'll be sure to get some pictures. I'll risk my phone or buy a waterproof disposable camera. I've only been once so far this year (last weekend) and there was a miserable cold front with sleet and snow that unexpectantly blew in (surprise surprise). We still caught 1 trout each below the lake hamilton dam though. We never get skunked!
 

Raincatcher

Moderator
Check these out

Check these out

ArkansasAngler;
Don't risk your cell phone just for a pic for us. I would reccomend one of the disposable cameras.
Check out this link for some great news for fisher folk here in Oregon. The rather large one is NOT typical of what I usually catch, but someday....
www.diamondlake.net/fishingreport.html
Just so you know, Diamond Lake is in southwest Oregon. A bit out of range,but something to think about for next time. Be safe.
Barb
 

Hawk

Well-known member
Hay AA, do u kno Bill Clinton & Monica Lewinsky???.................................har.har.har....................................:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:..................................:cool::cool::cool:





































j/k Bro.................:D
 

ArkansasAngler

New member
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Haha, I don't personally know the Clintons but my taxes do pay for his extravagant library:mad::mad:

Your skunking comment about steelhead is kind of depressing....

are they really that hard to catch?
 

chris61182

Active member
ArkansasAngler;
Don't risk your cell phone just for a pic for us. I would reccomend one of the disposable cameras.
Check out this link for some great news for fisher folk here in Oregon. The rather large one is NOT typical of what I usually catch, but someday....
www.diamondlake.net/fishingreport.html
Just so you know, Diamond Lake is in southwest Oregon. A bit out of range,but something to think about for next time. Be safe.
Barb

Forget those dinky fish! :) Check these guys out!
Trophy Trout Hunter
 

Raincatcher

Moderator
Mean looking thing

Mean looking thing

ArkansasAngler;
Those are some healthy looking fish. Is that second one a Gar or a Pikeminnow? It looks mean as a bear,whatever it is. Thanks for the pics. Which is you favorite to get into?
Barb
 
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