thanks guys, yep it would get crowded very quickly.....and thanks to those of you who know and wont tell, thats why i love this forum. i got her on my favorite go to plastic, its a green berkley with a 1/8 ounce jig head, or the pinkish red one you see in the picture on the ground. i love catching these guys and then letting them go, there like the bulldogs of the pond