steelhead_stalkers said:
I am pretty sure both rivers are wild for steelhead but I am not sure about salmon. They also have winter salmon runs or really late fall runs, we got one last year in January.
Guys, these are tiny rivers - they're more stream than river, despite the name. There are very few spots where they're wider than 30 feet even in high water.
I live here. Although both are currently open for trout, chinook and steelhead, there is NO SUMMER STEELHEAD run in either river, and the chinook and steelhead won't start moving for a couple of months. Maybe October, more likely November.
Both are under a lot of fishing pressure when the sandbars wash out. Friday to Monday they can be bow-to-stern. There are few drifts and mostly the boats run from one hole to another and everyone gets out of the boat to fish. Don't see many fishing from within their boats.
The mouth of the Elk is a killer spot for salmon, but you'll be elbow-to-elbow with others.
Both are fished more for salmon than for steelhead. There's a hatchery on the Elk.
Both are in narrow and steep valleys and when the coastal winds are in (at the same time the salmon are in) I'm not sure about fly-fishing in either river. If you can cast in winds to 30 or 40mph, I guess it's possible.
There are no more than five public access points on both rivers, combined, at ODFW boat launches. There's more access in the wilderness areas if you've a mountain goat gene or two in your DNA.
The landowners are very protective of their property - for good reason. I'm still finding crap (too often literally) that was discarded last salmon season on the banks. You wouldn't want to be cleaning your backyard and picking up used toilet paper, either. So give them a break.
I mean: when you're in a boat, how much effort does it take to go over and pull that KwikFish and the 50 yards of heavy mono attached to it off of a log? Too much effort for too many people, it seems... I have a goodly sized box of lures salvaged from the banks at low water.
The locals are very friendly (xxxxxx) but you won't see many of us on the rivers. We know before anyone else when to get out there and we're done before the masses descend on us. You're seeing and interacting with the folks who migrate in for the fishing, and yes, they can be a bit cranky.
I love these rivers. They're drop-over-dead beautiful and I'll go sit by them even when I'm not fishing. Come whenever you want, but please respect the river for itself and keep it clean. Please?