Cheating?

Troutier Bassier
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A friend of mine caught this nice little trout today.

Do you guys think its cheating using jigs with a fly rod to catch trout? I'm not talking weighted flies, I mean a jig head.

Whats your thought?
 
eggs
People use jig heads for winter steelhead flies all the time... not cheating imo...
 
Troutier Bassier
I didn't mean to use the word "Cheating" btw. Couldn't think of any other word.

Eggs, would it still be a fly if its tied on a jig head?
 
the_intimidator03
IMO i think its fine. Personally a jig on flyrod is no different than say a beadhead or dumbell'ed eyed fly? Someone can correct me if I am wrong. as for traditional aspects i would say yeah its wrong but for fly fishing in general... no not at all.
 
halibuthitman
a person should do what makes them happy... if its legal, frankly if an all foam hopper or using a plastic strike indicator is fly fishing who cares about a jig.. we all have our own personal constitution we choose to fish under. now add a worm or a prawn to it and you are shaming and cursing your rod and your unborn children in my book!
 
Irishrover
Set your own code and don't expect others to follow. They should follow their code. As long as you measure up to your code you will do fine. Fishing is a competition between you and the fish not you and others. From what I can see looks like you are doing rather well. Keep focused on you and your code that's the one that counts for you.;)
 
Kais
How would you set up a jig on a flyrod, just tie it on or use a strike indicator or what? sounds useful
 
eggs
halibuthitman said:
a person should do what makes them happy... if its legal, frankly if an all foam hopper or using a plastic strike indicator is fly fishing who cares about a jig.. we all have our own personal constitution we choose to fish under. now add a worm or a prawn to it and you are shaming and cursing your rod and your unborn children in my book!
Amen.. baby Jesus approves...
 
eggs
Kais said:
How would you set up a jig on a flyrod, just tie it on or use a strike indicator or what? sounds useful

On the swing with sink tip for winters imo is fly fishing.......... under a thingibobber with a jig... is just bobber fishing with a fiy rod imo....
 
OnTheFly
It's not the use of jigs that is wrong here it's hauling in a poor little rainbow on an 8wt rod.
 
Bad Tuna
Just swing it like a weighted fly.
 
skunk
OnTheFly said:
It's not the use of jigs that is wrong here it's hauling in a poor little rainbow on an 8wt rod.

That is too funny onthefly, waiting for someone to point that out! I basically got cursed out for catching a fish on gear and baitcast rod when I purported to be a fly fisherman. I love fly fishing passionately, I almost despise fly fishermen when that happens. Fish how you want, and the way that gets the job done is my moto. If its legal, then its fishing!
 
Moe
Depends on what you think. If you think it counts, then it should count.
 
colbypearson
didn't know it was a contest........
 
Throbbit _Shane
Irishrover said:
Set your own code and don't expect others to follow. They should follow their code. As long as you measure up to your code you will do fine. Fishing is a competition between you and the fish not you and others.

I just put that in my signature on another fishing forum. Great quote!
 
GungasUncle
Personally I don't see it as cheating at all. I tie nymphs and streamers on jig heads - and have been successful with them. For the contests over on another forum's fly fishing sub section - they disallow any flies tied on "jig" hooks - even if said fly is unweighted. I guess a fly that is presented in a horizontal, rather than vertical fashion when dead drifted is a bad thing? But anyway - it's really no different from a fish's standpoint than using a bead head, cone head, or dumb bell style weighted head. It can be deadly effective, on either a fly or spin rod.

I intend to focus a lot more on jig fishing this season - just as a personal experiment. I do that now and then - I pick one aspect of fishing for a season, and try to really focus on it and get better at it. Last couple years I've really focused a lot more on fishing in-line spinners for all species of fish. I also started getting more in to jig fishing - which I hadn't done a LOT of in a few years. This year, it's going to be mostly about the jig - fly tied jigs, and soft plastic bodies (in bait water anyway). Going to drift fish them, and tight line them a lot and see how bad I can slay the trouts (and bass, and panfish, and hopefully steelies and salmon!)

So long as it's legal - who cares what some fuddy duddy thinks? :)
 
GungasUncle
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Are the weighted flies tied on "standard" hooks really much different from nymphs and streamers tied on jig hooks?
 
colbypearson
those are awesome i bet you could really knock the river smallied dead throwing those on a really light spinning set up on like 4lb test i will have to try that out when i go back to umpqua!
 
GungasUncle
I spent most of last summer fishing for bas & panfish using Trout Magnet micro jigs - and they were deadly on everything from bluegill to bass, along with the occasional trout. I got both large and smallmouth on them out from Hagg. I tied up the fur & feather micro jigs to fish the smaller Artificials Only waters, since I can't fish my Trout Magnets on my favorite trout streams. If I find myself down that way again this year - I might just try tossing some of these on the Umpqua for smallies & trout, to see what I can dredge up :)

I fish almost strictly with ultralight gear anymore - except when I'm fishing for the big silver fishees. 7-7'6" (looking to get a couple longer than that) spin rods, 4lb line is my standard anymore. I don't think I've even touched any of my medium action spin rods in a couple seasons, except for my steelhead spinning rod.

a 1-2lb smallie or largemouth on an ultralight setup is pretty scrappy - and when you get the occasional BIG fish (for me that's anything approaching 4-5lbs) it's a real blast. Fighting a carp on said setup is about the most fun you can have with your pants on.
 
colbypearson
GungasUncle said:
I spent most of last summer fishing for bas & panfish using Trout Magnet micro jigs - and they were deadly on everything from bluegill to bass, along with the occasional trout. I got both large and smallmouth on them out from Hagg. I tied up the fur & feather micro jigs to fish the smaller Artificials Only waters, since I can't fish my Trout Magnets on my favorite trout streams. If I find myself down that way again this year - I might just try tossing some of these on the Umpqua for smallies & trout, to see what I can dredge up :)

I fish almost strictly with ultralight gear anymore - except when I'm fishing for the big silver fishees. 7-7'6" (looking to get a couple longer than that) spin rods, 4lb line is my standard anymore. I don't think I've even touched any of my medium action spin rods in a couple seasons, except for my steelhead spinning rod.

a 1-2lb smallie or largemouth on an ultralight setup is pretty scrappy - and when you get the occasional BIG fish (for me that's anything approaching 4-5lbs) it's a real blast. Fighting a carp on said setup is about the most fun you can have with your pants on.

i am not too fond of short ultralight rods but say a 7' light action spinning rod with a 1500-2000 size reel with light line is fun i like a long rod for playing the fish especially big smallies... i remember one of the first big bass i ever caught was 5lbs on a crappie jig on a light spinnging rod i had that fish on for close to 10 minutes in the weeds and i saw it come up and no one else saw it she sat in the weeds for minutes at a time eventually she tired and i caught here it was fun fish.... i rarely ever fish crappie jigs but i have got two over 4lbs on them, i have a freind from southern california who actually got i believe a 14lb bass on a crappie jig haha!
 
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