Cheating?

[Troutier Bassier]

A friend of mine caught this nice little trout today.

Do you guys think its cheating using jigs with a fly rod to catch trout? I'm not talking weighted flies, I mean a jig head.

Whats your thought?

 

[eggs]

People use jig heads for winter steelhead flies all the time... not cheating imo...

 

[Troutier Bassier]

I didn't mean to use the word "Cheating" btw. Couldn't think of any other word.

Eggs, would it still be a fly if its tied on a jig head?

 

[the_intimidator03]

IMO i think its fine. Personally a jig on flyrod is no different than say a beadhead or dumbell'ed eyed fly? Someone can correct me if I am wrong. as for traditional aspects i would say yeah its wrong but for fly fishing in general... no not at all.

 

[halibuthitman]

a person should do what makes them happy... if its legal, frankly if an all foam hopper or using a plastic strike indicator is fly fishing who cares about a jig.. we all have our own personal constitution we choose to fish under. now add a worm or a prawn to it and you are shaming and cursing your rod and your unborn children in my book!

 

[Irishrover]

Set your own code and don't expect others to follow. They should follow their code. As long as you measure up to your code you will do fine. Fishing is a competition between you and the fish not you and others. From what I can see looks like you are doing rather well. Keep focused on you and your code that's the one that counts for you.

 

[Kais]

How would you set up a jig on a flyrod, just tie it on or use a strike indicator or what? sounds useful

 

[eggs]

a person should do what makes them happy... if its legal, frankly if an all foam hopper or using a plastic strike indicator is fly fishing who cares about a jig.. we all have our own personal constitution we choose to fish under. now add a worm or a prawn to it and you are shaming and cursing your rod and your unborn children in my book!

Amen.. baby Jesus approves...

 

[eggs]

How would you set up a jig on a flyrod, just tie it on or use a strike indicator or what? sounds useful

On the swing with sink tip for winters imo is fly fishing.......... under a thingibobber with a jig... is just bobber fishing with a fiy rod imo....

 

[OnTheFly]

It's not the use of jigs that is wrong here it's hauling in a poor little rainbow on an 8wt rod.

 

[Bad Tuna]

Just swing it like a weighted fly.

 

[skunk]

It's not the use of jigs that is wrong here it's hauling in a poor little rainbow on an 8wt rod.

That is too funny onthefly, waiting for someone to point that out! I basically got cursed out for catching a fish on gear and baitcast rod when I purported to be a fly fisherman. I love fly fishing passionately, I almost despise fly fishermen when that happens. Fish how you want, and the way that gets the job done is my moto. If its legal, then its fishing!

 

[Moe]

Depends on what you think. If you think it counts, then it should count.

 

[colbypearson]

didn't know it was a contest........

 

[Throbbit _Shane]

Set your own code and don't expect others to follow. They should follow their code. As long as you measure up to your code you will do fine. Fishing is a competition between you and the fish not you and others.

I just put that in my signature on another fishing forum. Great quote!

 

[GungasUncle]

Personally I don't see it as cheating at all. I tie nymphs and streamers on jig heads - and have been successful with them. For the contests over on another forum's fly fishing sub section - they disallow any flies tied on "jig" hooks - even if said fly is unweighted. I guess a fly that is presented in a horizontal, rather than vertical fashion when dead drifted is a bad thing? But anyway - it's really no different from a fish's standpoint than using a bead head, cone head, or dumb bell style weighted head. It can be deadly effective, on either a fly or spin rod.

I intend to focus a lot more on jig fishing this season - just as a personal experiment. I do that now and then - I pick one aspect of fishing for a season, and try to really focus on it and get better at it. Last couple years I've really focused a lot more on fishing in-line spinners for all species of fish. I also started getting more in to jig fishing - which I hadn't done a LOT of in a few years. This year, it's going to be mostly about the jig - fly tied jigs, and soft plastic bodies (in bait water anyway). Going to drift fish them, and tight line them a lot and see how bad I can slay the trouts (and bass, and panfish, and hopefully steelies and salmon!)

So long as it's legal - who cares what some fuddy duddy thinks?

 

[GungasUncle]

Are the weighted flies tied on "standard" hooks really much different from nymphs and streamers tied on jig hooks?

 

[colbypearson]

those are awesome i bet you could really knock the river smallied dead throwing those on a really light spinning set up on like 4lb test i will have to try that out when i go back to umpqua!

 

[GungasUncle]

I spent most of last summer fishing for bas & panfish using Trout Magnet micro jigs - and they were deadly on everything from bluegill to bass, along with the occasional trout. I got both large and smallmouth on them out from Hagg. I tied up the fur & feather micro jigs to fish the smaller Artificials Only waters, since I can't fish my Trout Magnets on my favorite trout streams. If I find myself down that way again this year - I might just try tossing some of these on the Umpqua for smallies & trout, to see what I can dredge up

I fish almost strictly with ultralight gear anymore - except when I'm fishing for the big silver fishees. 7-7'6" (looking to get a couple longer than that) spin rods, 4lb line is my standard anymore. I don't think I've even touched any of my medium action spin rods in a couple seasons, except for my steelhead spinning rod.

a 1-2lb smallie or largemouth on an ultralight setup is pretty scrappy - and when you get the occasional BIG fish (for me that's anything approaching 4-5lbs) it's a real blast. Fighting a carp on said setup is about the most fun you can have with your pants on.

 

[colbypearson]

I spent most of last summer fishing for bas & panfish using Trout Magnet micro jigs - and they were deadly on everything from bluegill to bass, along with the occasional trout. I got both large and smallmouth on them out from Hagg. I tied up the fur & feather micro jigs to fish the smaller Artificials Only waters, since I can't fish my Trout Magnets on my favorite trout streams. If I find myself down that way again this year - I might just try tossing some of these on the Umpqua for smallies & trout, to see what I can dredge up

I fish almost strictly with ultralight gear anymore - except when I'm fishing for the big silver fishees. 7-7'6" (looking to get a couple longer than that) spin rods, 4lb line is my standard anymore. I don't think I've even touched any of my medium action spin rods in a couple seasons, except for my steelhead spinning rod.

a 1-2lb smallie or largemouth on an ultralight setup is pretty scrappy - and when you get the occasional BIG fish (for me that's anything approaching 4-5lbs) it's a real blast. Fighting a carp on said setup is about the most fun you can have with your pants on.

i am not too fond of short ultralight rods but say a 7' light action spinning rod with a 1500-2000 size reel with light line is fun i like a long rod for playing the fish especially big smallies... i remember one of the first big bass i ever caught was 5lbs on a crappie jig on a light spinnging rod i had that fish on for close to 10 minutes in the weeds and i saw it come up and no one else saw it she sat in the weeds for minutes at a time eventually she tired and i caught here it was fun fish.... i rarely ever fish crappie jigs but i have got two over 4lbs on them, i have a freind from southern california who actually got i believe a 14lb bass on a crappie jig haha!