Braided nightmare..

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ok so heres somthing that has posed a problem. i have used braid two times this year both resulting in a fish lost i don't know the name of the knot i use but i think it is the source of my problem. can anybody post knot instructions for tying braided line to a barrel swivel or atleast give me some knot names to look up? thanks a lot,

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Triline knot works well, just takes some practice tying.
 
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switching from mono to braid usally cost a few fish, remember any mistake will transfer directly to the knots and the hook.. every ounce of hookset will reach the mouth, too tight of a drag will not find forgiveness, chaffe will kill ya, Braid is advanced fishing gear, and unless you are bobber fishing or chasing Bonni sturg, I would stick with a mono flouro line.. I tried braid and broke off and cut myself on a hook set and then cut myself again in the salt fishing kings resting my finger on the line, and then the final staw was the roughly 25# nehalem nate that I directly blame the lack of forgiveness in braid for never getting to hold.. Fiberglass rods and fresh mono will never leave you crying.. just my take on it. no advise on the knots.
 
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I use the Trilene knot but first I double the line so it has more grip. Never had a problem with it after that. Hitman is right though about loosing a few when you firt start. Set your drag lighter than you are use too and learn to set the hook by just raising the tip to the twelve o'clock position. Easy to say tough to do, right! I use it when trolling and get more hookups because the strick sets the hook better. Again use a light drag and tighten it after the hook is set.

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I have no idea. And it's gettin dark fast.
Ive used braided line for a few years now and Ive used the polymer knot. Ive had swivels break before. But never had a problem once with the knot. Its very simple to tie. great instructions on you tube.
 
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yeah i might just get some mono on payday. but it really makes me angry..i lost a 30+ pound fall chinook and before that a springer on #30 braid but my reel also screwed it up a bit too for some reason it would stick a little bit when a fish would run with it so i had my uncle take it apart and clean/oil it. i appriciate the advice guys thanks

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If you are using it on a level wind reel make sure you run out 100 yards or so and then tie five pounds of weight on it before reeling it back in. It needs to be tight on the reel or the first time a fish runs it will bind in the loose line on the reel. I suppose the same thing would happen on a spinning reel too.

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I have no idea. And it's gettin dark fast.
If you are using it on a level wind reel make sure you run out 100 yards or so and then tie five pounds of weight on it before reeling it back in. It needs to be tight on the reel or the first time a fish runs it will bind in the loose line on the reel. I suppose the same thing would happen on a spinning reel too.

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Thats a very good point that gdbrown said. And another thing you might consider is Ive tried several kinds of braid and Ive found that I like the 50 pound XP.I like the 50# because of the diameter. I tried the 30# xp and it was way to thin and buried into the loose line like GDBrown mentioned.
 
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Fish N Fool Knot! Strongest knot and one of the easiest too!

Fish N Fool Knot

Never have to worry about it breaking and if it does any other knot would have failed before it. ;)

Another thing to remember when coming from mono to braid is you no longer have to be a bass master on the hook set. :lol: Loosen up your drag a bit and let the rod do the work. Also make sure your rod is rated to fish the strength of braid you are using. I never use more than 30lb braid and most of the time 20lb for Chinook.
 
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I do know when I started using braid on my level wind rod... when I go to set the hook I hear a zing from my drag LOL The fish-n-fool knot has done me good with mono and I havent really tested it on braid... mainly cause i keep forgetting how to tie it... cause i dont have to retie it often LOL
 
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well this has definitely increased my knowledge. i never knew about keeping weight on the line while spooling it onto your rod. and so many tough knots to add to my inventory
thanks guys :)
 
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I use the palomar for my braid with no problems. here is a site that has a lot of different knots with animation, it's called netknots. sorry i can't figure out how to post a link.
 
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Another thing that will help you with braided line if you are using a levelwind reel is to learn the correct way to clear a birds nest. Do a search on You Tube for some visuals. They usually demonstrate with mono line but the same works for braid.
 
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When I started using braid I found some info that suggests using a double palomar or a double uni knot. I primarily use the double palomar because the double uni requires you to double the line, not the knot itself. Go with what works best for you and the easiest to tie.
 
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Ive used braided line for a few years now and Ive used the polymer knot. Ive had swivels break before. But never had a problem once with the knot. Its very simple to tie. great instructions on you tube.

I can second Kirkster on that. Palomar knot is the way to go, and to solve the problem with my swivels I have gone with the vision size 7. I've caught many fish this season on them with out a single failure.

I do not endorse the vision hooks however because they are too soft and the points don't last.
 
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yeah i think the majority goes for palomar knot so that is what i'm going too try thanks,

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I use Power Pro. With some practice.. try a 20 twist.. Bimini Twist. You than put a small swivel in the loop and tie a mono leader onto the swivel. Then there is some stretch in the hookset and if you get hung up the mono will break first. I never fish straight braided line, always use a mono leader. I use the Fishin Fool Knot for mono, it is really is a variation of the Uni knot. If you are familiar with ringed hooks, the Uni knot works well instead of a ringed hook, just don't cinch it up all the way. Leave a small loop. The hookset will cinch up, makes the bait appear more livlier. JMHO
 
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I started using braid on one of my setups and have found success with a double palomar or a uni...so far, so good. Also, since I had seen him mention it before in another thread, I took steelhead_stalkers' advice and lightened up the drag relative to what I would use for mono of the same line strength. I imagine that advice is to compensate for the lack of stretch.

Another thing about spooling tension: I just grabbed several phone books, laid the line across one of them, then stacked a couple more on top to keep tension while loading the spool.

One thing I am finding difficult with braid is that the limpness/skimpiness makes knot tying difficult because if your line or fingers are wet, it sticks to frickin' everything!
 
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