Green Peter Report Thread

capron6 · 06-30-2008, 09:08 PM

One of my better days this year on the lake. Boated 14 kokanee and 2 chinook. Lost about a dozen more. Largest koke was 15.75" and fat. The fish were pretty ballistic today as well. Fished from 35' to 60' with most fish coming at 45'. Best lure was Pro-Troll kokanee killers behind a Shasta Tackle sling blade. Hoochies were second best producer. Nothing on spinners today. Tried a new "stink" today and it worked really well. So good in fact I am going to try it again tomorrow to make sure it wasn't a fluke. Wish today would have Kokanee Derby day, I had five that I know would have place easily in the money.

Boywhofishes · 07-01-2008, 06:21 PM

welcome to OFF... nice report. keep em coming

capron6 · 07-01-2008, 09:20 PM

Thanks for the welcome.

Well, Green Peter was again pretty good today. Two of us put 15 fish in the boat, only one at the 15" mark though, the rest averaged 13 1/2 +-. What I couldn't believe though is we lost about 4 fish to every one we caught. I used to think I knew how to catch these fish, but now I am beginning to wonder. We easily hooked 50 + fish today that did not make the boat. Talked to a couple of other fisherman that were having trouble getting these guys in the boat as well, so I didn't feel quite as bad. All in all, still a great day on the water despite some frustrations. Kokanee Killers produced again as well as some new gear obtained from a small tackle maker in California. Again, hoochies wouldn't get the job done today which is unusual. Best depths today were 40' to 55'. The bite started early then slacked off for a couple hours and then it was a hook up every 15 or 20 minutes until giving up due to wind at about 2:30.

ArcticAmoeba · 07-02-2008, 12:32 AM

There is probably one of two things going on with those kokes.
Either you are setting the hook a little too hard and almost ripping it out,(just barely hanging on) or the fish are striking the bait really aggressivly, and self setting the hook and tearing it through their mouth. I have fished these guys for years, and this is what normally happens for me if they are 1 for 4 or so. I'd bet it is the latter, seems to me they are usually pretty crazy right when we start gettin warm summer weather in late june or first couple weeksin July. Although it has been a year or so since i've been out for 'em.

But besides the point, you guys had a great day, geez. Decent sized fish too. I imagine the majority of the fish in there are about that size or smaller.

Troutski · 07-02-2008, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcticAmoeba

There is probably one of two things going on with those kokes.
Either you are setting the hook a little too hard and almost ripping it out,(just barely hanging on) or the fish are striking the bait really aggressivly, and self setting the hook and tearing it through their mouth. I have fished these guys for years, and this is what normally happens for me if they are 1 for 4 or so. I'd bet it is the latter, seems to me they are usually pretty crazy right when we start gettin warm summer weather in late june or first couple weeksin July. Although it has been a year or so since i've been out for 'em.

But besides the point, you guys had a great day, geez. Decent sized fish too. I imagine the majority of the fish in there are about that size or smaller.

Not to steal the thread....but I had a rod built this year just for Koke's. Dicroiclure built it for me...this thing is amazing. It is a 3 wt. fly rod blank - but built like a trolling rod. 7' long two piece rod with 13 guides made for super lines, an extended cork handle; married up with a Cabelas Gold Depth master line counter reel. 8lb Smoke Fireline with a 6lb Flora carbon leader. This thing sets the hook for you and the rod fights the fish, it even jigs pretty well. Haven't caught a Koke with it yet but the Land Locked Salmon at Cougar sure put the tip in the water..

Can't wait to try it out where the Koke's live... Sweet, very sweet set up...for what I want to do. Works well in the down rigger as well...

Chuck

capron6 · 07-02-2008, 10:31 AM

Arctic & Troutski:

Let me elaborate a little more, might give a better picture. I use a 7 1/2" Kokanee Special two piece downrigger rod with Robert's wrap especially built for Kokanee Power of California by Vance's Tackle, they are pretty limber and set the hook for you via the "load" you place on them. The kokes at this time are definitely more lively than normal due to the recent change in ambient and water temperatures. As we all know kokes have a very soft mouth to begin with particularly early on in the season. I generally am able to boat 90+% of the fish I hook. Yesterday the fish were particularly scrappy. They would take the lure, make one or two attempts to dive, then come directly to the surface and that puts the odds in their favor unless you can keep their heads under the surface by sticking your rod tip deeply in the water. When they catch site of the boat the ---- really hits the fan, the go absolutely ballistic. Anyway with the soft mouth they don't need much time to work a hook loose or tear it loose. Still, one of the most fun days out there I have had in awhile. There are three pretty distinct sizes of fish, which goes with their 3 year cycle. The one year fish are around 10 - 11" and I have only caught a couple of them this year. The 2 year fish are running 12 - 13" or so and that is what mostly is being caught. The 3 year fish are 13 1/2 up to 15 3/4" so far this year. I have been getting quite a few of them also, probably about 50/50 2 & 3 year fish. They are just now starting to school up some and should do moreso as summer continues. Anyway, I enjoyed your input, Thanks.

Troutski · 07-02-2008, 01:01 PM

capron6 thanks for all your help, this isn't my first season chasing these pesky fish but my experience level in rather low due to my first love...Trout. The last few years I have expanded my list of favorite fish to include the Koke and Land locked Chinook along with the Bass Family (Large mouth and Small mouth) both species are very challenging to say the least. I do appreciate all the help and tips...

Chuck

capron6 · 07-14-2008, 06:48 PM

Agreed, 7-14 was a tough day. Managed 6 fish with probably a dozen lost sometime during retrieval, mostly within 10' of the boat. Not much more to say about that, tough year. Not like years past. Still any day fishin is better than...............you decide.

capron6 · 07-17-2008, 09:51 PM

Nine today, up to 14 1/2", most at 12 - 13. 45- 50' and most caught at midday. Should shape up a little by Derby day. Noticed the lake is down about a foot or so in past 4 days as well.

jeffg · 07-19-2008, 06:52 PM

I agree with Capron 6. I use the same rod he describes. Starting with a fairly loose drag, then making every effort to keep the kokes in the water by placing the rod tip down below the surface does seem to increase your odds of the successful boating of your kokanee.

06-30-2008, 09:08 PM	#1
capron6 Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sweet Home, OR Posts: 27	Green Peter Report Thread One of my better days this year on the lake. Boated 14 kokanee and 2 chinook. Lost about a dozen more. Largest koke was 15.75" and fat. The fish were pretty ballistic today as well. Fished from 35' to 60' with most fish coming at 45'. Best lure was Pro-Troll kokanee killers behind a Shasta Tackle sling blade. Hoochies were second best producer. Nothing on spinners today. Tried a new "stink" today and it worked really well. So good in fact I am going to try it again tomorrow to make sure it wasn't a fluke. Wish today would have Kokanee Derby day, I had five that I know would have place easily in the money.

07-01-2008, 06:21 PM	#2
Boywhofishes Sustained Join Date: May 2008 Location: Eugene, Oregon Posts: 265	welcome to OFF... nice report. keep em coming __________________ "Fish naked, show off you POLE!"]

07-02-2008, 12:32 AM	#4
ArcticAmoeba Moderator Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: O.C. Posts: 717	There is probably one of two things going on with those kokes. Either you are setting the hook a little too hard and almost ripping it out,(just barely hanging on) or the fish are striking the bait really aggressivly, and self setting the hook and tearing it through their mouth. I have fished these guys for years, and this is what normally happens for me if they are 1 for 4 or so. I'd bet it is the latter, seems to me they are usually pretty crazy right when we start gettin warm summer weather in late june or first couple weeksin July. Although it has been a year or so since i've been out for 'em. But besides the point, you guys had a great day, geez. Decent sized fish too. I imagine the majority of the fish in there are about that size or smaller. __________________ Get Bent...Yo Rod That Is.

07-02-2008, 01:01 PM	#7
Troutski Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Springfield, OR. Posts: 2,106	Thanks for the information... capron6 thanks for all your help, this isn't my first season chasing these pesky fish but my experience level in rather low due to my first love...Trout. The last few years I have expanded my list of favorite fish to include the Koke and Land locked Chinook along with the Bass Family (Large mouth and Small mouth) both species are very challenging to say the least. I do appreciate all the help and tips... Chuck __________________ Teach a man to fish and he will steal your secret fishing hole...

07-19-2008, 06:52 PM	#10
jeffg Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Roseville,california Posts: 2	Green Peter Report Thread I agree with Capron 6. I use the same rod he describes. Starting with a fairly loose drag, then making every effort to keep the kokes in the water by placing the rod tip down below the surface does seem to increase your odds of the successful boating of your kokanee.

07-01-2008, 09:20 PM	#3
capron6 Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sweet Home, OR Posts: 27	Thanks for the welcome. Well, Green Peter was again pretty good today. Two of us put 15 fish in the boat, only one at the 15" mark though, the rest averaged 13 1/2 +-. What I couldn't believe though is we lost about 4 fish to every one we caught. I used to think I knew how to catch these fish, but now I am beginning to wonder. We easily hooked 50 + fish today that did not make the boat. Talked to a couple of other fisherman that were having trouble getting these guys in the boat as well, so I didn't feel quite as bad. All in all, still a great day on the water despite some frustrations. Kokanee Killers produced again as well as some new gear obtained from a small tackle maker in California. Again, hoochies wouldn't get the job done today which is unusual. Best depths today were 40' to 55'. The bite started early then slacked off for a couple hours and then it was a hook up every 15 or 20 minutes until giving up due to wind at about 2:30.

07-02-2008, 10:31 AM	#6
capron6 Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sweet Home, OR Posts: 27	Arctic & Troutski: Let me elaborate a little more, might give a better picture. I use a 7 1/2" Kokanee Special two piece downrigger rod with Robert's wrap especially built for Kokanee Power of California by Vance's Tackle, they are pretty limber and set the hook for you via the "load" you place on them. The kokes at this time are definitely more lively than normal due to the recent change in ambient and water temperatures. As we all know kokes have a very soft mouth to begin with particularly early on in the season. I generally am able to boat 90+% of the fish I hook. Yesterday the fish were particularly scrappy. They would take the lure, make one or two attempts to dive, then come directly to the surface and that puts the odds in their favor unless you can keep their heads under the surface by sticking your rod tip deeply in the water. When they catch site of the boat the ---- really hits the fan, the go absolutely ballistic. Anyway with the soft mouth they don't need much time to work a hook loose or tear it loose. Still, one of the most fun days out there I have had in awhile. There are three pretty distinct sizes of fish, which goes with their 3 year cycle. The one year fish are around 10 - 11" and I have only caught a couple of them this year. The 2 year fish are running 12 - 13" or so and that is what mostly is being caught. The 3 year fish are 13 1/2 up to 15 3/4" so far this year. I have been getting quite a few of them also, probably about 50/50 2 & 3 year fish. They are just now starting to school up some and should do moreso as summer continues. Anyway, I enjoyed your input, Thanks.

07-14-2008, 06:48 PM	#8
capron6 Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sweet Home, OR Posts: 27	Agreed, 7-14 was a tough day. Managed 6 fish with probably a dozen lost sometime during retrieval, mostly within 10' of the boat. Not much more to say about that, tough year. Not like years past. Still any day fishin is better than...............you decide.

07-17-2008, 09:51 PM	#9
capron6 Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sweet Home, OR Posts: 27	Nine today, up to 14 1/2", most at 12 - 13. 45- 50' and most caught at midday. Should shape up a little by Derby day. Noticed the lake is down about a foot or so in past 4 days as well.

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