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chris61182 said:Yup, and if it were really about "scary noise" then they'd deregulate sound suppressors.
Theres the real root of the problem!
chris61182 said:Yup, and if it were really about "scary noise" then they'd deregulate sound suppressors.
RunWithSasquatch said:Theres the real root of the problem!
chris61182 said:Or it could really be the ever popular but notably long term approach for gun control, by restricting the ability to easily engage in the shooting sports people lose interest.
RunWithSasquatch said:
So besides stating the intent quite plainly, what else do you need? Smuggling guns to Mexican drug cartels while blaming the gun stores and the 2nd Amendment? I think he provided you with that as well.“I just want you to know that we are working on it,” Brady recalled the president telling them. “We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar.”
Denduran87 said:And Bingo was his name-o!!! Just as they tried to regulate ammo this will be a slow way to push out hunters than say that there is no need for firearms now. Not in the near future but in the future it will happen. History has proven time and time again of large government becoming afraid of their people and taking away their firearms then leading to mass genocides.
chris61182 said:That's so nice of you to continue casting aspersions on others while you yourself willfully remain ignorant....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...r-steve-croley/2011/04/04/AFt9EKND_print.html
So besides stating the intent quite plainly, what else do you need? Smuggling guns to Mexican drug cartels while blaming the gun stores and the 2nd Amendment? I think he provided you with that as well.
bigsteel said:sounds like you should read the link IrishRover posted
RunWithSasquatch said:The thread is going white trash in a hurry.
chris61182 said:Or you could read my post three prior to that, but yeah IrishRover's link is fantastic news, the type of news that results when people get involved and let their voices be heard.
bigsteel said:or instead of jumping to conspiracy conclusions,actually wait to see what the facts are
chris61182 said:I don't see anything in that link that suggests there was anything wrong with the initial take on it, instead it looks like BLM is responding in a correct fashion to the outcry.
PNW Sam said:Markcanby, it did say something about hunting. I do agree totally with what you have said thus far, but in the article it says:
"If the draft policy is finally approved, some public access to Bureau lands to hunters would also be limited, potentially reducing areas deer, elk, and bear hunters can use in the West." (Note, it says some, not all public access to hunting...)
Also, when you think about it, the same type of stuff that goes on that makes private companies close areas of their property to target shooting goes on in similar areas that the BLM controls, but the BLM land is generally unregulated when it comes to target shooting and they have nothing in place to my knowledge that would allow them to take any action against the real BS that some people do. The types of areas I'm talking about are close to cities, close to highways, and receive a lot of traffic of all types. It's not like 100% of BLM land has issues with people trashing it or conflicts with other recreational users, and they wouldn't close every acre they control just because of the small fraction that gets damaged. That would be like making an 8pm curfew for everyone in the state because parts of Portland have a gang problem.
Also, they don't have the means to enforce an across the board ban on shooting, and they know it. In a time of budget cuts, a new law that would cost a lot of money to enforce isn't going to make much ground, if any.
n8r1 said:I'm not arguing on either side of this issue, but I don't blame them for closing land.
Here's something I found last summer while driving on some private property that was previously open to the public. Some idiots decided it would be a good idea to take a couple TVs out there and shoot them up. What you don't see in the picture are dozens of shell casings, beer cans, and shattered glass scattered everywhere, along with a bunch of cigarette butts and other trash. Not long after this happened, the company constructed a gate and put up a sign saying that the area was now closed due to vandalism. You can still hike in, which I don't mind, but now several miles of riverfront access have been blocked off to cars. I don't blame them; if the land was mine and I found that, I would have closed it too.