Braided line

Anatoliy · 04-09-2008, 01:06 PM

I use monofoliment line (4 pound test). Now I found out that braided line are stronger and thiner. So it looks obvious that to change to braided line is a good idea. However I'm suspecting there is something... Why then people still use monofoliment? Is there a trick/secret????

JTLunker · 04-09-2008, 01:31 PM

I have some braided line on a few reels, but I like the stretch that mono has. That and I haven't had any fish break my mono other than when my knot fails. I am sure there are other reasons for mono devotion as well.

USMC061018 · 04-09-2008, 01:42 PM

I use mostly jigs for steelhead and bobber and egg for salmon. I switched to braided line this year, 20lb test that's 6lb diameter. The only problem i had was learning the proper knot to use when attaching the leader to the main line. Other than that it's great when you use a bobber because your line floats and won't get ahead of your presentation. I love it for that type of fishing.

JTLunker · 04-09-2008, 01:47 PM

I learned the Blood know not long ago and think it would be a good choice to join those lines.

Combat Chuck · 04-09-2008, 03:29 PM

Do you need to use leader with it? And if so wouldn't that defeat the part of the purpose of stronger line since the leader is still the weak point. Or are you using braided leader? Troutski mentioned a swivel and long mono leader when using spinners, does the swivel pass through the eyes without problem cast after cast (or maybe I just use lighter gear with smaller eyes)? Is there any problems with not using leader? Thanks, Im clueless

Anatoliy · 04-09-2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Combat Chuck

Do you need to use leader with it? And if so wouldn't that defeat the part of the purpose of stronger line since the leader is still the weak point.

Good question.

Quote:

Troutski mentioned a swivel and long mono leader when using spinners, does the swivel pass through the eyes without problem cast after cast (or maybe I just use lighter gear with smaller eyes)?

I think he was talking about trolling, not casting.

Troutski · 04-09-2008, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Combat Chuck

Do you need to use leader with it? And if so wouldn't that defeat the part of the purpose of stronger line since the leader is still the weak point. Or are you using braided leader? Troutski mentioned a swivel and long mono leader when using spinners, does the swivel pass through the eyes without problem cast after cast (or maybe I just use lighter gear with smaller eyes)? Is there any problems with not using leader? Thanks, Im clueless

I use small gear, ultra lite reels and lite/ultra rods. The swivels I use are just large enough to stop at the tip, now that in mind don't wind your line in with out paying attention as this will cause the swivel to slam into the rod tip causing the inner ceramic part of the guide to pop out, I just know this we can leave it at that. I do use a four pound leader, some times two pound; depending on the water I am fishing. I use 6 lb. braided line for my main line, the knot I use to attach the main line to the swivel is a Palomar knot, to join the leader to the main line is a blood knot. these are very cool knots and can be found on this site;Grog's Fishing Knots Index, I know this sounds complicated and if you have any questions do hesitate to ask.

Chuck

GraphiteZen · 04-09-2008, 04:09 PM

I never ever cast a swivel through my guides as I did one one rod and it broke the ceramic in the eyelet. Even if you have metal you can still burr it up and that will degrade your line.

As far as line, I have never really gotten into braided. I can see the no stretch advantage, how susceptible to twisting is it?

I like the chance of a big fish being able to break my line, having to treat them gingerly is where the fun is at for me. I guess I'm a light tackle guy.

McMudpuddle · 04-09-2008, 05:02 PM

I admit I tried real hard to like braided line. On paper it seems very nice.
I have switched it all back to mono. the problems I had were just to numerous.
Hard to tie the knots I know and trust.
Very susceptible to wind knots, rats nesting, looping over the end of the pole.
very hard to get a nice clean cut, it always frayed just enough to be a pain.

cchinook · 04-10-2008, 09:29 AM

2 yrs. ago I switched to braided line for my level winds and spinning reels - I will never go back ! It lasts a long time and does not degrade in water and sunlight. I can cast just as far as mono . I use 50lb. Tuff Line green. On spinning reels it does not " loop off " of the spool before you even get a chance to cast. On level winds it seems easier to repair a bird's nest. However , never use it for leader , if you hang up you will never get your rig back. When you set the hook it only takes a flick of your wrist , do not jerk back hard or you can snap your leader off. I have buried the hook in nooks that were 50-80 yds. away from me ( remember there is NO stretch ) .
As far as knots go I only use 2 types - egg knot for the leader and the overhand Palomer for everything else. I have caught a lot of salmon in my day
90% bank , and wish I had switched a long time ago. 2 yrs. ago I lost a big springer because my main mono line had a little nick in it from sinking and rubbing on rocks - that would not have happened with braided. Do not get
braided heavier than 50 or you will not be able to get the bobber stop on,
as far as fraying goes you must cut with really sharp scissors - I got some " sea scissors" from Cabelas - they work great. Is is amazing to me how many fish I have seen lost because of poor knot tying , I am thinking of having
knot tying classes and charging for them, I would get rich ! The bottom line is that when I hook a big nook on braided with a 30 lb. leader that fish is not going anywhere but the B.B.Q.

04-09-2008, 01:06 PM	#1
Anatoliy Administrator Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 379	Braided line I use monofoliment line (4 pound test). Now I found out that braided line are stronger and thiner. So it looks obvious that to change to braided line is a good idea. However I'm suspecting there is something... Why then people still use monofoliment? Is there a trick/secret????

04-09-2008, 01:31 PM	#2
JTLunker Master Angler Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tigard, OR Posts: 478	I have some braided line on a few reels, but I like the stretch that mono has. That and I haven't had any fish break my mono other than when my knot fails. I am sure there are other reasons for mono devotion as well. __________________ JT FISH ON!!!!

04-09-2008, 01:42 PM	#3
USMC061018 Apprentice Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southern california Posts: 46	I use mostly jigs for steelhead and bobber and egg for salmon. I switched to braided line this year, 20lb test that's 6lb diameter. The only problem i had was learning the proper knot to use when attaching the leader to the main line. Other than that it's great when you use a bobber because your line floats and won't get ahead of your presentation. I love it for that type of fishing. __________________ Fishing makes you smarter

04-09-2008, 01:47 PM	#4
JTLunker Master Angler Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tigard, OR Posts: 478	I learned the Blood know not long ago and think it would be a good choice to join those lines. __________________ JT FISH ON!!!!

04-09-2008, 04:09 PM	#8
GraphiteZen Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Corvallis, OR Posts: 362	I never ever cast a swivel through my guides as I did one one rod and it broke the ceramic in the eyelet. Even if you have metal you can still burr it up and that will degrade your line. As far as line, I have never really gotten into braided. I can see the no stretch advantage, how susceptible to twisting is it? I like the chance of a big fish being able to break my line, having to treat them gingerly is where the fun is at for me. I guess I'm a light tackle guy. __________________ When I die, screw some hooks into my spine and head for the deep water.

04-09-2008, 03:29 PM	#5
Combat Chuck Angler Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Albany Posts: 146	Do you need to use leader with it? And if so wouldn't that defeat the part of the purpose of stronger line since the leader is still the weak point. Or are you using braided leader? Troutski mentioned a swivel and long mono leader when using spinners, does the swivel pass through the eyes without problem cast after cast (or maybe I just use lighter gear with smaller eyes)? Is there any problems with not using leader? Thanks, Im clueless

04-09-2008, 05:02 PM	#9
McMudpuddle Apprentice Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: McMinnville Posts: 64	I admit I tried real hard to like braided line. On paper it seems very nice. I have switched it all back to mono. the problems I had were just to numerous. Hard to tie the knots I know and trust. Very susceptible to wind knots, rats nesting, looping over the end of the pole. very hard to get a nice clean cut, it always frayed just enough to be a pain.

04-10-2008, 09:29 AM	#10
cchinook Apprentice Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Portland Posts: 86	braided line 2 yrs. ago I switched to braided line for my level winds and spinning reels - I will never go back ! It lasts a long time and does not degrade in water and sunlight. I can cast just as far as mono . I use 50lb. Tuff Line green. On spinning reels it does not " loop off " of the spool before you even get a chance to cast. On level winds it seems easier to repair a bird's nest. However , never use it for leader , if you hang up you will never get your rig back. When you set the hook it only takes a flick of your wrist , do not jerk back hard or you can snap your leader off. I have buried the hook in nooks that were 50-80 yds. away from me ( remember there is NO stretch ) . As far as knots go I only use 2 types - egg knot for the leader and the overhand Palomer for everything else. I have caught a lot of salmon in my day 90% bank , and wish I had switched a long time ago. 2 yrs. ago I lost a big springer because my main mono line had a little nick in it from sinking and rubbing on rocks - that would not have happened with braided. Do not get braided heavier than 50 or you will not be able to get the bobber stop on, as far as fraying goes you must cut with really sharp scissors - I got some " sea scissors" from Cabelas - they work great. Is is amazing to me how many fish I have seen lost because of poor knot tying , I am thinking of having knot tying classes and charging for them, I would get rich ! The bottom line is that when I hook a big nook on braided with a 30 lb. leader that fish is not going anywhere but the B.B.Q.

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