Braided -vs- mono...

Troutski · 06-21-2008, 06:20 AM

Well I finely put together a rod and reel (spinning set up) and was wondering what type of line you Bass anglers would recommend. I gather I want something in the range of 12-15 lb test but should I go with a super line (braided) or one of the mono's ? Seems like the braided is a bit stiff when you get up into the heaver test lines but the mono twist easyly, any help would be appricated....

Chuck

Troutski · 06-24-2008, 12:29 PM

Looks like I am on my own...

SDK · 06-24-2008, 12:57 PM

Sorry- Didn't see this with the site going down.

I like braided line for float fishing, and have a Salmon and a Steelhead rod that are both rigged with the new P-line Spectrex 4 braid in 25lb moss green.

For a spinning combo to target bass with lightwieght lures, I would go with mono all the way. The only bass rig that I would consider a braided line for would be one with a baitcast reel. Even then only if I'd be using heavier cranks or jigs with it.

Having said that, they do now make some more light tackle friendly braids that are not as bouyant. If you decide to experiment with one, let us know how it goes. Now that you have me thinking about it, I may even give one a try....

Scott

SDK · 06-24-2008, 03:22 PM

I was looking at the Spiderwire braid. Some of the reviews regarding the abrasion strength of braided line kind of confirmed one of my fears. I pasted one up from the Bass Pro website for you;

Overall Rating: 1 out of 5

Save yer money, May 14, 2008
By WaltS from S/W Oklahoma (read all my reviews)

"I've fished with a lot of lines, but this stuff is not my choice! Yes, it casts well. Yes it is smooth and the stretch, visibility are fine, but I have lost more fish with this stuff than any other line I've tried.

The abrasion resistance is terrible!!!
If you want a trolling line, it may be ok, but then so is dacron.

I fish bass, and bass like cover. This line just will not hold up. In a matter of 15 minutes, I hooked 3 fish on a whacky worm rig and the line (20# test) parted on every one of them after having just tied on the hook and checking the line. It just frayed apart on cat-tails, rock, brush......whatever.

I tried some of the 20lb test line with a bobber, with the hook tied directly to the end of the line. The bluegill I was catching could wear through the line and I would loose them (even after stripping of some line and checking it to make sure there was no nicks, frays etc. and putting on a new hook).

Also, it seemed as though, once in a while, the line would break cleanlly at the knot!
I lost more fish in a day with this stuff because of broken lines than I have with any other line (flurocarbon, monofilament, braids or dacron).

I have been fishing for about 60 yrs now, in all sorts of conditions and lost as many fish because of this line in one day than (what seems like) all those years combined!

It does have one use though.......If you want to outfish some other person, make him a gift of a spool! It will make you a sure winner! Otherwise, stay away from this stuff!
Walt"

This is why I already have two Steelhead poles, one for bobber drifting and one for weighted drifts. The visibility and ease of mending braid with a bobber is awesome. Not sure it's the right line for Bass fishing though....

Troutski · 06-24-2008, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDK

I was looking at the Spiderwire braid. Some of the reviews regarding the abrasion strength of braided line kind of confirmed one of my fears. I pasted one up from the Bass Pro website for you;

Overall Rating: 1 out of 5

Save yer money, May 14, 2008
By WaltS from S/W Oklahoma (read all my reviews)

"I've fished with a lot of lines, but this stuff is not my choice! Yes, it casts well. Yes it is smooth and the stretch, visibility are fine, but I have lost more fish with this stuff than any other line I've tried.

The abrasion resistance is terrible!!!
If you want a trolling line, it may be ok, but then so is dacron.

I fish bass, and bass like cover. This line just will not hold up. In a matter of 15 minutes, I hooked 3 fish on a whacky worm rig and the line (20# test) parted on every one of them after having just tied on the hook and checking the line. It just frayed apart on cat-tails, rock, brush......whatever.

I tried some of the 20lb test line with a bobber, with the hook tied directly to the end of the line. The bluegill I was catching could wear through the line and I would loose them (even after stripping of some line and checking it to make sure there was no nicks, frays etc. and putting on a new hook).

Also, it seemed as though, once in a while, the line would break cleanlly at the knot!
I lost more fish in a day with this stuff because of broken lines than I have with any other line (flurocarbon, monofilament, braids or dacron).

I have been fishing for about 60 yrs now, in all sorts of conditions and lost as many fish because of this line in one day than (what seems like) all those years combined!

It does have one use though.......If you want to outfish some other person, make him a gift of a spool! It will make you a sure winner! Otherwise, stay away from this stuff!
Walt"

This is why I already have two Steelhead poles, one for bobber drifting and one for weighted drifts. The visibility and ease of mending braid with a bobber is awesome. Not sure it's the right line for Bass fishing though....

So what brand and type would you recommend for Bass angling, my rod is rated at 10 - 15 lb test and would like to use a leader if possible. I bow to your 60 years of experience...no reason to pass you up on that...

Chuck

SDK · 06-24-2008, 11:50 PM

LOL- Chuck, that was a review from Bass Pro that mirrored my concern about the abrasion resistance of braided line. I'm a young looking 41

Honestly, I've found most of the different brands of mono to be interchangeable. I just stay away from the cheap stuff, and very much like to use flourocarbon leaders.

liquidplumber · 06-25-2008, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troutski

Well I finely put together a rod and reel (spinning set up) and was wondering what type of line you Bass anglers would recommend. I gather I want something in the range of 12-15 lb test but should I go with a super line (braided) or one of the mono's ? Seems like the braided is a bit stiff when you get up into the heaver test lines but the mono twist easyly, any help would be appricated....

Chuck

My buddy tried the spiderwire years ago on his spinning reel,we went fishing at a lake 2hrs away and he took only one rod..His rod was spooled with 6lb.He hooked a fish and then tried to reel it in but the line kept spinning on the reel.I don't know if there's a special knot to keep it from doing this.He spooled it just like you would mono.Luckily I had a spool of mono in my vest.It was an exspensive lesson,but one learned.Personaly I use only mono except for sturgeon.You probably allready know this but when spooling a spinning reel I lay my roll of line on the ground and reel in 20 cranks to see if the line twists when letting the rod down,if it does then I just turn it over.With a conventional a pencil works just fine.Just my 2 cents.Good luck.

18406ej · 06-25-2008, 03:49 PM

When using SpiderWire, the first part of the reel needs to be loaded with mono to erase the lack of traction effect. I enjoy mono as much as anyone, but remain a big fan of the SpiderWire. I only lake fish though, so I have had not had much in the way of encounters with abbrasive objects.

FishSchooler · 06-25-2008, 05:29 PM

I wanna get some 20 pound braid made by sufix, the diam is like 6 pound mono or something. I looked for sufix's line at joes. Nothing! I want to get a line that can take something like steelhead or bass or salmon, but is thin enough to catch panfish and trout.

The Nothing · 06-27-2008, 10:48 AM

Interesting comments...

I grew up using Mono, its all I ever really knew. Just a month ago I bought a spool of braid to check it out. I liked the idea of a 20# Braid that was the same size as 6# Mono.

Picked up a spool of SpiderWire Stealth.

Been liking it a lot. I've fished it off the bottom, with a bobber, swim baits, spinners, spoons, crankbaits, you name it. I've been happy with it. I've caught a few snags along the way and with this line I've been retrieving all the lures I would have otherwise lost on mono. I've used the line to pull me (boat) to where my snag was...

There is one thing I have found I didn't like with it. I've been using mono leaders when needed and can't seem to get the two to jive very well. At least once a day the leader manages to tangle with the line and things become a huge mess. Its mostly my fault as my leaders end up getting spooled tightly and tossed into my tacklebox to be reused. They're pretty sloppy to say the least.

I have the braid spooled without any mono and haven't had any spinning problems. The wife has had a few casting issues with the line, but think we figured that problem out last weekend (wasn't watching and line was snagging on her bail)

At this point I've not found much to be unhappy about, and will continue using braid...

06-21-2008, 06:20 AM	#1
Troutski Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Springfield, OR. Posts: 2,152	Braided -vs- mono... Well I finely put together a rod and reel (spinning set up) and was wondering what type of line you Bass anglers would recommend. I gather I want something in the range of 12-15 lb test but should I go with a super line (braided) or one of the mono's ? Seems like the braided is a bit stiff when you get up into the heaver test lines but the mono twist easyly, any help would be appricated.... Chuck __________________ Teach a man to fish and he will steal your secret fishing hole...

06-24-2008, 12:29 PM	#2
Troutski Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Springfield, OR. Posts: 2,152	Ouch... Looks like I am on my own... __________________ Teach a man to fish and he will steal your secret fishing hole...

06-25-2008, 03:49 PM	#8
18406ej Master Angler Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Keizer Posts: 450	When using SpiderWire, the first part of the reel needs to be loaded with mono to erase the lack of traction effect. I enjoy mono as much as anyone, but remain a big fan of the SpiderWire. I only lake fish though, so I have had not had much in the way of encounters with abbrasive objects. __________________ E.J. "I am going where streams of whiskey are flowing"

06-25-2008, 05:29 PM	#9
FishSchooler Master Angler Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lake Oswego Posts: 1,003	I wanna get some 20 pound braid made by sufix, the diam is like 6 pound mono or something. I looked for sufix's line at joes. Nothing! I want to get a line that can take something like steelhead or bass or salmon, but is thin enough to catch panfish and trout. __________________ Give a man some powerbait, he'll fish for a day, teach the man how to make powerbait, he won't be fishing at all.

06-27-2008, 10:48 AM	#10
The Nothing Apprentice Join Date: May 2008 Location: PDX Posts: 64	Interesting comments... I grew up using Mono, its all I ever really knew. Just a month ago I bought a spool of braid to check it out. I liked the idea of a 20# Braid that was the same size as 6# Mono. Picked up a spool of SpiderWire Stealth. Been liking it a lot. I've fished it off the bottom, with a bobber, swim baits, spinners, spoons, crankbaits, you name it. I've been happy with it. I've caught a few snags along the way and with this line I've been retrieving all the lures I would have otherwise lost on mono. I've used the line to pull me (boat) to where my snag was... There is one thing I have found I didn't like with it. I've been using mono leaders when needed and can't seem to get the two to jive very well. At least once a day the leader manages to tangle with the line and things become a huge mess. Its mostly my fault as my leaders end up getting spooled tightly and tossed into my tacklebox to be reused. They're pretty sloppy to say the least. I have the braid spooled without any mono and haven't had any spinning problems. The wife has had a few casting issues with the line, but think we figured that problem out last weekend (wasn't watching and line was snagging on her bail) At this point I've not found much to be unhappy about, and will continue using braid... __________________ ~Isaac back fishing after a 15 year hiatus

06-24-2008, 12:57 PM	#3
SDK Angler Join Date: May 2008 Location: Salem Posts: 108	Sorry- Didn't see this with the site going down. I like braided line for float fishing, and have a Salmon and a Steelhead rod that are both rigged with the new P-line Spectrex 4 braid in 25lb moss green. For a spinning combo to target bass with lightwieght lures, I would go with mono all the way. The only bass rig that I would consider a braided line for would be one with a baitcast reel. Even then only if I'd be using heavier cranks or jigs with it. Having said that, they do now make some more light tackle friendly braids that are not as bouyant. If you decide to experiment with one, let us know how it goes. Now that you have me thinking about it, I may even give one a try.... Scott

06-24-2008, 03:22 PM	#4
SDK Angler Join Date: May 2008 Location: Salem Posts: 108	I was looking at the Spiderwire braid. Some of the reviews regarding the abrasion strength of braided line kind of confirmed one of my fears. I pasted one up from the Bass Pro website for you; Overall Rating: 1 out of 5 Save yer money, May 14, 2008 By WaltS from S/W Oklahoma (read all my reviews) "I've fished with a lot of lines, but this stuff is not my choice! Yes, it casts well. Yes it is smooth and the stretch, visibility are fine, but I have lost more fish with this stuff than any other line I've tried. The abrasion resistance is terrible!!! If you want a trolling line, it may be ok, but then so is dacron. I fish bass, and bass like cover. This line just will not hold up. In a matter of 15 minutes, I hooked 3 fish on a whacky worm rig and the line (20# test) parted on every one of them after having just tied on the hook and checking the line. It just frayed apart on cat-tails, rock, brush......whatever. I tried some of the 20lb test line with a bobber, with the hook tied directly to the end of the line. The bluegill I was catching could wear through the line and I would loose them (even after stripping of some line and checking it to make sure there was no nicks, frays etc. and putting on a new hook). Also, it seemed as though, once in a while, the line would break cleanlly at the knot! I lost more fish in a day with this stuff because of broken lines than I have with any other line (flurocarbon, monofilament, braids or dacron). I have been fishing for about 60 yrs now, in all sorts of conditions and lost as many fish because of this line in one day than (what seems like) all those years combined! It does have one use though.......If you want to outfish some other person, make him a gift of a spool! It will make you a sure winner! Otherwise, stay away from this stuff! Walt" This is why I already have two Steelhead poles, one for bobber drifting and one for weighted drifts. The visibility and ease of mending braid with a bobber is awesome. Not sure it's the right line for Bass fishing though....

06-24-2008, 11:50 PM	#6
SDK Angler Join Date: May 2008 Location: Salem Posts: 108	LOL- Chuck, that was a review from Bass Pro that mirrored my concern about the abrasion resistance of braided line. I'm a young looking 41 Honestly, I've found most of the different brands of mono to be interchangeable. I just stay away from the cheap stuff, and very much like to use flourocarbon leaders.

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