Casting Light weight objects

FishSchooler · 06-17-2008, 01:03 PM

I can't seem to cast light weight lures like rooster tails or shad darts that far without putting on a weight. I think you can put weights ahead of shad darts but a weight would screw up the presentation of a spinner.
I can cast things like plugs and spinnerbaits fine, not spinners though... How should I cast these light weight objects without switching a reel or rod?

osmosis · 06-17-2008, 01:15 PM

I've caught fish with split shot 18" ahead of both shad darts and all kinds of small spinners.
Sometimes we spinner fish for coho with a 3 way swivel: one going to mainline, one to a 2-3' leader with usualy a blue fox, and the third going to a small 4" dropper with a small weight for the casting distance.
You could scale down what we use for coho and catch all kinds of things.

using quality line, and re spooling often helps casting distance by itself.

SDK · 06-17-2008, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osmosis

I've caught fish with split shot 18" ahead of both shad darts and all kinds of small spinners.
Sometimes we spinner fish for coho with a 3 way swivel: one going to mainline, one to a 2-3' leader with usualy a blue fox, and the third going to a small 4" dropper with a small weight for the casting distance.
You could scale down what we use for coho and catch all kinds of things.

using quality line, and re spooling often helps casting distance by itself.

What he said

I also use splits with small spinners, although my rod is good enough to cast larger spinners without a dropper. I start about 2 feet up the leader and space a few 6" or so apart. You can then fool around with your presentation. Usually combination of reeling in slightly faster and keeping the rod tip a bit higher will get the spinner where you want it.

FishSchooler · 06-17-2008, 03:15 PM

Thanks.

trollin4trout · 06-17-2008, 08:36 PM

lighter line always helps - as does the amount of line on your reel-keep it full, a light limber pole will help.

casting 101 (IMO)

If you simply hold your pole behind you with the lure dangling - and then make a casting motion from there- you're missing out on the benefit of the pole to help you fling it FAR.

Better to reel the lure up to within a foot of the tip of your rod and then start with the pole in front of you. First just practice whipping the pole back and forth behind you and in front- get the feel of how far the pole bends and when the point of maximum bend is behind you and then begins to spring forward- then USE the force of the UNBENDING as you go forward to help fling the lure the farthest it can go.

Definitely split shots will help casting- but you lose the feel of the lure in the water. Some lures, you can feel throb or vibrate in the water- some spinners also. Small ones like Roostertails- you can't feel spinning- BUT you can sometimes feel when they stop- they don't pull as hard on your tip- they come towards you easier suddenly. Once you add split shots on a Roostertail- you can't tell anymore if it's working.

plunkme · 06-18-2008, 01:54 PM

I cast tons of rooster tails when it comes to fishing for trout the best way is to use lighter line like 4-8lb line they get pretty for usually about 20-30 ft for me adding weight is harder to fish for me cause the spinners will drop faster meaning reeling in faster

willfishforfood · 07-23-2008, 08:01 PM

I recently switched from 8# stren to 6# mono on one of my reels and noticed a HUGE difference in the difference in the cast as well as the sensitivity to what the lure was doing in the water.

ArcticAmoeba · 07-23-2008, 11:31 PM

I just used up a last bit of 6lb. Max. UG. I use it for steelhead leaders. Go light. I have landed a couple of 3 pound brookies on 4 lb. mono. super ultra light tackle. Hard fightin fish, and they take longer to reel up because you need to set up your drag properly, in other words spool it down. I run up to 10 lb. for steel/nook leader, and probably need to just switch to some 8lb. lo-vis... And yes the 2 and 4 lb. mono is like havin cotton attached to the lure compared to a house cat, talk about a small Kastmasters best friend!...Good Stuff.

FishSchooler · 07-24-2008, 10:09 AM

All I can say amoeba is

(lol) to your comparison.

Nelson · 07-24-2008, 11:03 AM

there is another link similar to this but this is my second chime in.

light set up, longer pole , light line smooth casting , no snap swivel, light rooster tails with no weight cast the worst. I use size 6 panther martins with 4 or 6 lb smooth casting line. I can huck the lure almost out of sight. also.... a very important factor after all the gear is considered was what was mentioned above. let the lure hang about a foot or a foot and a half from the rod tip... then Sling Shot it and it will go much farther. find your own comfortable distance for the lure to hang. Depends on the wieght of the lure.

good luck

06-17-2008, 01:03 PM	#1
FishSchooler Master Angler Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lake Oswego Posts: 1,003	Casting Light weight objects I can't seem to cast light weight lures like rooster tails or shad darts that far without putting on a weight. I think you can put weights ahead of shad darts but a weight would screw up the presentation of a spinner. I can cast things like plugs and spinnerbaits fine, not spinners though... How should I cast these light weight objects without switching a reel or rod? __________________ Give a man some powerbait, he'll fish for a day, teach the man how to make powerbait, he won't be fishing at all.

06-17-2008, 03:15 PM	#4
FishSchooler Master Angler Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lake Oswego Posts: 1,003	Thanks. __________________ Give a man some powerbait, he'll fish for a day, teach the man how to make powerbait, he won't be fishing at all.

06-17-2008, 08:36 PM	#5
trollin4trout Angler Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 148	lighter line always helps - as does the amount of line on your reel-keep it full, a light limber pole will help. casting 101 (IMO) If you simply hold your pole behind you with the lure dangling - and then make a casting motion from there- you're missing out on the benefit of the pole to help you fling it FAR. Better to reel the lure up to within a foot of the tip of your rod and then start with the pole in front of you. First just practice whipping the pole back and forth behind you and in front- get the feel of how far the pole bends and when the point of maximum bend is behind you and then begins to spring forward- then USE the force of the UNBENDING as you go forward to help fling the lure the farthest it can go. Definitely split shots will help casting- but you lose the feel of the lure in the water. Some lures, you can feel throb or vibrate in the water- some spinners also. Small ones like Roostertails- you can't feel spinning- BUT you can sometimes feel when they stop- they don't pull as hard on your tip- they come towards you easier suddenly. Once you add split shots on a Roostertail- you can't tell anymore if it's working. Last edited by trollin4trout : 06-17-2008 at 08:41 PM.

07-23-2008, 08:01 PM	#7
willfishforfood Apprentice Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 67	Light Line I recently switched from 8# stren to 6# mono on one of my reels and noticed a HUGE difference in the difference in the cast as well as the sensitivity to what the lure was doing in the water. __________________ Catching fish or just fishing?

07-23-2008, 11:31 PM	#8
ArcticAmoeba Moderator Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: O.C. Posts: 717	I just used up a last bit of 6lb. Max. UG. I use it for steelhead leaders. Go light. I have landed a couple of 3 pound brookies on 4 lb. mono. super ultra light tackle. Hard fightin fish, and they take longer to reel up because you need to set up your drag properly, in other words spool it down. I run up to 10 lb. for steel/nook leader, and probably need to just switch to some 8lb. lo-vis... And yes the 2 and 4 lb. mono is like havin cotton attached to the lure compared to a house cat, talk about a small Kastmasters best friend!...Good Stuff. __________________ Get Bent...Yo Rod That Is. Last edited by ArcticAmoeba : 07-23-2008 at 11:33 PM.

06-17-2008, 01:15 PM	#2
osmosis Sustained Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Beavercreek Posts: 272	I've caught fish with split shot 18" ahead of both shad darts and all kinds of small spinners. Sometimes we spinner fish for coho with a 3 way swivel: one going to mainline, one to a 2-3' leader with usualy a blue fox, and the third going to a small 4" dropper with a small weight for the casting distance. You could scale down what we use for coho and catch all kinds of things. using quality line, and re spooling often helps casting distance by itself.

06-18-2008, 01:54 PM	#6
plunkme Apprentice Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 41	I cast tons of rooster tails when it comes to fishing for trout the best way is to use lighter line like 4-8lb line they get pretty for usually about 20-30 ft for me adding weight is harder to fish for me cause the spinners will drop faster meaning reeling in faster

07-24-2008, 10:09 AM	#9
FishSchooler Master Angler Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lake Oswego Posts: 1,003	All I can say amoeba is (lol) to your comparison. __________________ Give a man some powerbait, he'll fish for a day, teach the man how to make powerbait, he won't be fishing at all.

07-24-2008, 11:03 AM	#10
Nelson Angler Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Portland OR Posts: 113	second chime in there is another link similar to this but this is my second chime in. light set up, longer pole , light line smooth casting , no snap swivel, light rooster tails with no weight cast the worst. I use size 6 panther martins with 4 or 6 lb smooth casting line. I can huck the lure almost out of sight. also.... a very important factor after all the gear is considered was what was mentioned above. let the lure hang about a foot or a foot and a half from the rod tip... then Sling Shot it and it will go much farther. find your own comfortable distance for the lure to hang. Depends on the wieght of the lure. good luck __________________ He'll fish anywhere!

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