100% biodegradeble fishing weight

USMC061018 · 03-25-2008, 08:17 AM

If you could use a biodegradeble weight over a lead or other type of metal weight with the same performance would you? Lead weights poison loons and other bird species when they are swallowed. States on the east coast and even europe have banned the use of lead weights of certain sizes because of the dangers towards birds when they ingest them. That trend is slowly moving west and in the great liberal state of oregon it won't be to long before we have similar laws banning lead weight. If you would prefer an alternative that is safe to the environment with the same performance let me know. Also let me know how you feel about the "green" trend of today. Do your part in protecting our environment and preserving our natural resources for future generations.

Jessals Fishing · 03-25-2008, 01:22 PM

I like the idea but question the material. I fish the Kenai in AK which has allot of pressure and is heavily scrutinized, so we are always looking for ways in which we can minimalize impact without decreasing your success rate too much. I would like to hear more about your weight solution and would consider not only implementing it but passing it along to the guide community here. My only problem I could see is that I use slinky weights, which is lead BB's slid into a cord sleeve so size is important, but I am intrigued...

Troutski · 03-25-2008, 03:02 PM

I have tried the substitute lead stuff from Cabelas and wasn't impressed. Doesn't seem to work as well as lead, I have graduated from spark plugs during Steelhead season......in the old days we would tie any thing on that would sink and was cheap, not that I am proud of this practice but it was true. Very interested in a alternative.

Chuck

GraphiteZen · 03-25-2008, 04:43 PM

That is a tough one. I mean there aren't many substances heavier than lead that would would be as cheap and work as well for fishing. The only thing that would truly solve the problem once and for all would be for everyone to take up fly fishing

I think we should all stop using lead for the dangers it poses to the environment. On the flip side, how much lead is put into the water every time someone goes out to a rural pond (like the one out by Hoskins/Kings Valley) to shoot some and fish? People trap shoot over the pond all the time and I don't see anyone bringing up issues like that. There are broken pigeons everywhere and literally every single piece of exposed timber has just been blown to hell.
I am all for green anything. Why not? You can argue global warming until you're blue in face but you can't argue the notion that the fewer pollutants you put into the air or ground, the better. In addition, it could also mean more jobs and more security for our economy.

USMC061018 · 03-27-2008, 11:39 AM

well all it has to do is sink. That simple. The fact that people are shooting clay pigeons over water could have harmful effects on bird if they swallow the pellots. If they are falling in the deeper water it's less likely they will be swallowed. That's not to say all of them are though. We have so many tree huggers in oregon that want to save all the trees and wetlands that the question i posted should be a simple answer. yes.

The weights have been used and have been successfully employed to catch fish. You don't alway's need a heavy weight on your line because the fish will generally take the path of least resistance. The rarely swim where the current is strongest. don't you agree?

I appreciate your input on this topic and wish more people would voice their opinion on this topic not just read the posts and move on. There is no right or wrong just let me know how you feel!

Jessals Fishing · 03-27-2008, 07:58 PM

well, for me size is crutial. I use specific BB's w/ a certain size cord, so too much of a drastic increase in size would not work but up to a certain degree, I'm sure a could work with.

chris61182 · 03-27-2008, 08:31 PM

So are you talking about a biodegradable weight, or just one that isn't as toxic as lead (ie. tin, steel, tungsten)?

If there was something biodegradable that would be real neat. But if it's just the less toxic metals, I've used them and haven't noticed any appreciable difference in performance, so for a similar price I'd definitely switch to the non-toxic option.

USMC061018 · 03-28-2008, 05:29 AM

it's one hundred percent biodegradeble. I don't think that tungsten is going to degrade any time this decade. It is also not toxic.

chris61182 · 03-28-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by USMC061018

it's one hundred percent biodegradeble. I don't think that tungsten is going to degrade any time this decade. It is also not toxic.

Well that definitely would catch my attention. Do you have any links to such products?

USMC061018 · 03-31-2008, 08:56 AM

no links to the product. I'm doing research to see if there is a market for my product in the northwest or if i need to go to the east coast where the laws have already been put in place.

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03-25-2008, 08:17 AM	#1
USMC061018 Apprentice Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southern california Posts: 47	100% biodegradeble fishing weight If you could use a biodegradeble weight over a lead or other type of metal weight with the same performance would you? Lead weights poison loons and other bird species when they are swallowed. States on the east coast and even europe have banned the use of lead weights of certain sizes because of the dangers towards birds when they ingest them. That trend is slowly moving west and in the great liberal state of oregon it won't be to long before we have similar laws banning lead weight. If you would prefer an alternative that is safe to the environment with the same performance let me know. Also let me know how you feel about the "green" trend of today. Do your part in protecting our environment and preserving our natural resources for future generations. Last edited by USMC061018 : 03-25-2008 at 12:30 PM.

03-25-2008, 01:22 PM	#2
Jessals Fishing Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sterling, AK Posts: 22	good thinking I like the idea but question the material. I fish the Kenai in AK which has allot of pressure and is heavily scrutinized, so we are always looking for ways in which we can minimalize impact without decreasing your success rate too much. I would like to hear more about your weight solution and would consider not only implementing it but passing it along to the guide community here. My only problem I could see is that I use slinky weights, which is lead BB's slid into a cord sleeve so size is important, but I am intrigued... __________________ Joe Jessal Sterling, Alaska WORK IS FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO FISH!

03-25-2008, 03:02 PM	#3
Troutski Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Springfield, OR. Posts: 1,920	Bio-weights I have tried the substitute lead stuff from Cabelas and wasn't impressed. Doesn't seem to work as well as lead, I have graduated from spark plugs during Steelhead season......in the old days we would tie any thing on that would sink and was cheap, not that I am proud of this practice but it was true. Very interested in a alternative. Chuck __________________ Practice C.P.R. (Catch Photograph and Release)

03-25-2008, 04:43 PM	#4
GraphiteZen Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Corvallis, OR Posts: 399	That is a tough one. I mean there aren't many substances heavier than lead that would would be as cheap and work as well for fishing. The only thing that would truly solve the problem once and for all would be for everyone to take up fly fishing I think we should all stop using lead for the dangers it poses to the environment. On the flip side, how much lead is put into the water every time someone goes out to a rural pond (like the one out by Hoskins/Kings Valley) to shoot some and fish? People trap shoot over the pond all the time and I don't see anyone bringing up issues like that. There are broken pigeons everywhere and literally every single piece of exposed timber has just been blown to hell. I am all for green anything. Why not? You can argue global warming until you're blue in face but you can't argue the notion that the fewer pollutants you put into the air or ground, the better. In addition, it could also mean more jobs and more security for our economy. __________________ When I die, screw some hooks into my spine and head for the deep water.

03-27-2008, 11:39 AM	#5
USMC061018 Apprentice Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southern california Posts: 47	well all it has to do is sink. That simple. The fact that people are shooting clay pigeons over water could have harmful effects on bird if they swallow the pellots. If they are falling in the deeper water it's less likely they will be swallowed. That's not to say all of them are though. We have so many tree huggers in oregon that want to save all the trees and wetlands that the question i posted should be a simple answer. yes. The weights have been used and have been successfully employed to catch fish. You don't alway's need a heavy weight on your line because the fish will generally take the path of least resistance. The rarely swim where the current is strongest. don't you agree? I appreciate your input on this topic and wish more people would voice their opinion on this topic not just read the posts and move on. There is no right or wrong just let me know how you feel!

03-27-2008, 07:58 PM	#6
Jessals Fishing Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sterling, AK Posts: 22	well, for me size is crutial. I use specific BB's w/ a certain size cord, so too much of a drastic increase in size would not work but up to a certain degree, I'm sure a could work with. __________________ Joe Jessal Sterling, Alaska WORK IS FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO FISH!

03-27-2008, 08:31 PM	#7
chris61182 Master Angler Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hillsboro/Beaverton Area Posts: 645	So are you talking about a biodegradable weight, or just one that isn't as toxic as lead (ie. tin, steel, tungsten)? If there was something biodegradable that would be real neat. But if it's just the less toxic metals, I've used them and haven't noticed any appreciable difference in performance, so for a similar price I'd definitely switch to the non-toxic option.

03-28-2008, 05:29 AM	#8
USMC061018 Apprentice Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southern california Posts: 47	it's one hundred percent biodegradeble. I don't think that tungsten is going to degrade any time this decade. It is also not toxic. __________________ Fishing makes you smarter

03-31-2008, 08:56 AM	#10
USMC061018 Apprentice Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southern california Posts: 47	no links to the product. I'm doing research to see if there is a market for my product in the northwest or if i need to go to the east coast where the laws have already been put in place. __________________ Fishing makes you smarter

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