Tualatin River - Page 5

Nelson · 05-12-2008, 05:05 PM

I heard about the T-Wally, fished it once during sept, I think.....
I caught the biggest yellow perch I have ever seen.... I had to look twice to see that it was not a skimpy smallmouth..... I released the fish and then realized that it was the largest perch I had seen by about 4 times.....

FishSchooler · 05-13-2008, 05:36 PM

Ok....
Not a bad day for me on may 10th!
I arrived at cook park at about 11:00am. I fished with a 1/16 rooster tail, but had no luck. I saw a guy by me fishing with a worm. I thought that worms weren't allowed until may 24th, so I continued with my rooster tail. Time went by without any bites. That guy came about 5 minutes after we arrived. He rigged something like a 2-4 ounce weight at the bottom, with 2 regular hooks forking off the main line. He hooked two worms on and casted it upstream. He left it there and walked around. A couple minutes later, a huge sucker jumped(like 15 or 16 inches). My mom saw it and told me to use worms, but I sticked to my spinner cause worms weren't allowed until may 24th. A couple minutes later, a huge 18 inch squawfish was pulled in with a worm by the same person. I still hadn't got a bite. My mom made me switch to worms. I did the same rig and casted it. I kept getting what I thought were bites because I felt a jerk and my rod tip bent and shook. I set the hook, but into a snag. Then I got another "bite," realed in and saw a head of a worm. This kept on happening until I pulled in a 14 inch sucker. About and hour later, I pulled in another sucker, this time about 11 inches. Luckily, we weren't ticketed if bait isn't allowed until may 24th.

Plus, that guy said that he ate a squaw and sucker before and it tasted good.

chris61182 · 05-13-2008, 08:28 PM

Congrats on taking Mom out fishing.

And you were right, no bait until the 24th, and actually depending on where on the river you are there may be no bait at all. Now while I won't chastise you for it, Johny Law might not be so inclined.

I look forward to future fishing reports, tight lines and good luck!

JBean · 05-14-2008, 07:55 AM

I would really encourage you to try not to use the worms. I understand your frustration, however, they have the regs for a reason. Also, I know that the Washington County Sherrif DOES ticket people at Cook Park. Does anyone know a set up that isn't bait, that could mimic the same idea?

chris61182 · 05-14-2008, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBean

Does anyone know a set up that isn't bait, that could mimic the same idea?

Unfortunately I think the closest one can legally get to using bait in a non-bait area would be flies, because you have to remember that soft plastics are considered bait.

JBean · 05-14-2008, 08:21 AM

Your right Chris, it's so hard not to at least use the plastics. Also many don't know that plastics are considered bait. When I first started fishing I really had to ask around about it because I thought for sure it wouldn't be considered bait. I was dissapointed to learn I was wrong!

I was thinking of doing a jig/bobber set up and try for something. Like a steel head set up. Other than that, I guess I just have to wait until the 24th to fish the Tualatin. I sure like the challenge of it, and last year there were very few people who even fished it at all.

phillk6751 · 05-14-2008, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris61182

Unfortunately I think the closest one can legally get to using bait in a non-bait area would be flies, because you have to remember that soft plastics are considered bait.

wait....I was under the impression that soft plastics are ONLY considered bait IF they have a built-in scent and/or salt release, etc. Also dousing them in a liquid scent is not considered bait.

chris61182 · 05-15-2008, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phillk6751

wait....I was under the impression that soft plastics are ONLY considered bait IF they have a built-in scent and/or salt release, etc. Also dousing them in a liquid scent is not considered bait.

NO! Soft plastics are considered bait in Oregon, period. Scent on the other hand is not considered bait.

All from the 2008 ODFW Regs Pg 6...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artifical Fly

A fly is a hook, dressed with conventional fly tying materials. The affixed materials may be natural or synthetic.
Tied in conjunction with other materials, the following items may be part of the fly: wire (lead or other metal) used
for weighting the fly, dumbbell eyes or beads (metal, glass or plastic). A fly is not a hook to which sinkers, molded
weights, spinners, spoons or similar attractors are attached.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bait

Any item used to attract fish which is not an artificial fly or a lure. Molded soft plastic or rubber imitation worms,
eggs, or other imitation baits are considered bait. Scent is not considered bait.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lure

An artificial device, complete with hooks, intended to attract and entice fish; excluding molded soft plastic or
rubber imitation baits and artificial flies. Corkies, spin-n-glos, go-glos, birdy drifters, lead-head jigs, etc., are considered
lures. Molded soft plastic or rubber imitation worms, eggs, or other imitation baits are considered bait.

phillk6751 · 05-15-2008, 08:38 AM

that's nice that they've cleared up what bait was....i don't remember it being that obvious in the previous years as to the definition.

now what about spinnerbaits(such as below)....are those considered bait or a lure?

Silverblade · 05-15-2008, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phillk6751

that's nice that they've cleared up what bait was....i don't remember it being that obvious in the previous years as to the definition.

now what about spinnerbaits(such as below)....are those considered bait or a lure?

Lure. No molded soft plastic, just a hula skirt & that doesn't count.

05-12-2008, 05:05 PM	#41
Nelson Angler Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Portland OR Posts: 113	T-Wally I heard about the T-Wally, fished it once during sept, I think..... I caught the biggest yellow perch I have ever seen.... I had to look twice to see that it was not a skimpy smallmouth..... I released the fish and then realized that it was the largest perch I had seen by about 4 times..... __________________ He'll fish anywhere!

05-14-2008, 07:55 AM	#44
JBean Angler Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tigard Posts: 112	I would really encourage you to try not to use the worms. I understand your frustration, however, they have the regs for a reason. Also, I know that the Washington County Sherrif DOES ticket people at Cook Park. Does anyone know a set up that isn't bait, that could mimic the same idea? __________________ I wanna go fishing!

05-14-2008, 08:21 AM	#46
JBean Angler Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tigard Posts: 112	Your right Chris, it's so hard not to at least use the plastics. Also many don't know that plastics are considered bait. When I first started fishing I really had to ask around about it because I thought for sure it wouldn't be considered bait. I was dissapointed to learn I was wrong! I was thinking of doing a jig/bobber set up and try for something. Like a steel head set up. Other than that, I guess I just have to wait until the 24th to fish the Tualatin. I sure like the challenge of it, and last year there were very few people who even fished it at all. __________________ I wanna go fishing!

05-13-2008, 05:36 PM	#42
FishSchooler Master Angler Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lake Oswego Posts: 305	Ok.... Not a bad day for me on may 10th! I arrived at cook park at about 11:00am. I fished with a 1/16 rooster tail, but had no luck. I saw a guy by me fishing with a worm. I thought that worms weren't allowed until may 24th, so I continued with my rooster tail. Time went by without any bites. That guy came about 5 minutes after we arrived. He rigged something like a 2-4 ounce weight at the bottom, with 2 regular hooks forking off the main line. He hooked two worms on and casted it upstream. He left it there and walked around. A couple minutes later, a huge sucker jumped(like 15 or 16 inches). My mom saw it and told me to use worms, but I sticked to my spinner cause worms weren't allowed until may 24th. A couple minutes later, a huge 18 inch squawfish was pulled in with a worm by the same person. I still hadn't got a bite. My mom made me switch to worms. I did the same rig and casted it. I kept getting what I thought were bites because I felt a jerk and my rod tip bent and shook. I set the hook, but into a snag. Then I got another "bite," realed in and saw a head of a worm. This kept on happening until I pulled in a 14 inch sucker. About and hour later, I pulled in another sucker, this time about 11 inches. Luckily, we weren't ticketed if bait isn't allowed until may 24th. Plus, that guy said that he ate a squaw and sucker before and it tasted good.

05-13-2008, 08:28 PM	#43
chris61182 Master Angler Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hillsboro/Beaverton Area Posts: 477	Congrats on taking Mom out fishing. And you were right, no bait until the 24th, and actually depending on where on the river you are there may be no bait at all. Now while I won't chastise you for it, Johny Law might not be so inclined. I look forward to future fishing reports, tight lines and good luck!

05-15-2008, 08:38 AM	#49
phillk6751 Apprentice Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Molalla Posts: 45	that's nice that they've cleared up what bait was....i don't remember it being that obvious in the previous years as to the definition. now what about spinnerbaits(such as below)....are those considered bait or a lure?

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